Episode's summary
Welcome back on the Journey! If you missed the first half of this conversation, go back to episode 203 and get to know B Chris (7) and Jonathan (2) a little better. In the latter half, the Reverend joins Suzanne, Jonathan, and B Chris to talk about life in ministry. The ups and downs, highs and lows. PLUG TIME Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to find out about what is coming up on Suzanne's teaching schedule and the LTM calendar! Including: The Contemplative Enneagram Summit Know Your Number with Suzanne the first weekend of October The Replanted Conference The Enneagram Journey and Life In The Trinity Ministry are safe spaces for solitary work that cannot be done alone!
Welcome back on the Journey! If you missed the first half of this conversation, go back to episode 203 and get to know B Chris (7) and Jonathan (2) a little better. In the latter half, the Reverend joins Suzanne, Jonathan, and B Chris to talk about life in ministry. The ups and downs, highs and lows. PLUG TIME Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to find out about what is coming up on Suzanne's teaching schedule and the LTM calendar! Including: The Contemplative Enneagram Summit Know Your Number with Suzanne the first weekend of October The Replanted Conference The Enneagram Journey and Life In The Trinity Ministry are safe spaces for solitary work that cannot be done alone!
Episodes
E204: Jonathan (2) and B Chris (7) Part II - Enneagram and Ministry
ListenedWelcome back on the Journey! If you missed the first half of this conversation, go back to episode 203 and get to know B Chris (7) and Jonathan (2) a little better. In the latter half, the Reverend joins Suzanne, Jonathan, and B Chris to talk about life in ministry. The ups and downs, highs and lows. PLUG TIME Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to find out about what is coming up on Suzanne's teaching schedule and the LTM calendar! Including: The Contemplative Enneagram Summit Know Your Number with Suzanne the first weekend of October The Replanted Conference The Enneagram Journey and Life In The Trinity Ministry are safe spaces for solitary work that cannot be done alone!
E203: Jonathan (2) and B Chris (7)
ListenedThis is the first half of a fun, and deep, conversation! Meet longtime friends and working partners, Jonathan and B Chris. We've got 2 Twos and 2 Sevens talking, so you're gonna have to pick a side! Not really of course. They joined us at The Micah Center to talk about their working relationship, our responses to trauma, finding balance, and Tinder! Among other things. PLUG TIME Enneagram and Pickle Ball September 22nd! Enneagram Know Your Number in Massachusetts! Apply for the 2027 Enneagram Cohort Program! The Contemplative Enneagram Summit! Find even more at lifeinthetrinityministry.com !
E202: Enneagram 9s Unite!
ListenedGet a little Flashlight going for these three Enneagram 9s! If you are a 9, or love one, or want to love one better, give this a listen. Rev. Joe Stabile, Jeff Crosby, and Dr. Billy Schewee join Suzanne in this episode to talk about Enneagram Nines and: Generational Differences Guilt and Shame Active vs. Passive Engagement Music and more! PLUG TIME Know Your Number with Suzanne Stabile in Boston is October 2-3! lifeinthetrinityministry.com Come hear the workshop that inspired the best selling book, The Road Back to You! Friday night and all day Saturday, packed with community, compassion, and understanding. Join us at The Parish of the Epiphany in Winchester. If you can't join in person, join online! Music Samples in today's podcast: The Enneagram Journey theme song comes from Solveig Leithaug ft. Cindy Morgan, "Lift You Up" "Its Too Late" by Carole King (1971) "Blowin' in the Wind" by Chad Michell Trio (1963) "Today" by The Smashing Pumpkins (1993) "Father and Son" by Cat Stevens (1970)
E201: Jenn (7) and Josh (6) Hook - State It and Rate It
ListenedAs you can tell from the intro, this is a great BLEEPING episode of The Journey! Meet Jenn and Josh, a 6 and 7 handling all that life throws at them. Miscarriages, Parenting, Replanted State it and Rate it Same here paddles and more! "Shame dies when stories are told in safe spaces." - Ann Voskamp PLUG TIME 2026 Enneagram Bootcamp! July 30 - August 1 in Dallas or join online. Generational Enneagram with Suzanne Stabile and LTM Know Your Number in Boston! - October 2-3. Tell everyone you know to join. It is going to be. Awesome. Replanted Conference - You hear about it in the episode, now come be about it 2027 Enneagram Cohort Program - Now is the time to apply! 4 Cohorts with 40 spots for each one. Don't miss your chance to dive into the deep end of solitary work that cannot be done alone And visit and subscribe to lifeinthetrinityministry.com for all things LTM and Enneagram Journey!
E200: June Q&A with The Enneagram Godmother
ListenedWe finally figured out how to stream to both Facebook AND Instagram!! Thank you to everyone who joined live for this podcast recording. I (Joel) think we got to answer 13-15 questions, which is impressive for us in a one hour segment. Hopefully we'll get to do these weekly moving forward. PLUG TIME: Enneagram Bootcamp 2026: Generational Enneagram lifeinthetrinityministry.com The coolest thing about Enneagram Bootcamp is seeing the bonds and relationships that build each year. We hope you'll be a part of this upcoming opportunity July 30 - Aug 1. As you heard in the intro, stay hard David Black. A good dude, who lived a good life. Everyone who knew him will miss him. Joe and Suzanne will miss him. LTM will miss him.
E199: Live from Minneapolis with Courtney (7) and Rachel (4)
ListenedWe are a little bummed that nobody mentioned Safety Dance in this conversation! That being said, this is a great conversation about dancing and ritual, the enneagram and our relationship with our bodies. This is Rachel's first time on the show, and Courtney is an Enneagram Journey veteran, and it probably isn't their last time sharing with our listeners. We have a few clips of songs sprinkled throughout the show, and hope you enjoy all of them (or at least a couple!). And don't forget to jump on over to lifeinthetrinityministry.com to see where Suzanne is teaching next and other opportunities with LTM and The Enneagram Journey! Music in this episode Pink Pony Club by Chappell Roan Shine by Michael Franti & Spearhead One Day / Reckoning Song by Asaf Avidan & The Mojos Could I have This Dance by Anne Murray My Joy Is Heavy by The Bengsons The Molly B. Polka Party
E198: Live from Lemuria with Hunter (2) and Bradley (9)
ListenedTwo of the podcast's favorite people join Suzanne and Joe at her favorite bookstore to do what she loves the most: talk relationships and enneagram! The listeners are probably familiar with Hunter from all of his work with LTM, and now you get to meet his soon to be husband, Bradley Hickman. We get to hear what works and what struggles 9s and 2s have together. PLUG TIME: LTM has a new home, and we're working on updating a new and improved website. We have events coming up in Minnesota, California, Texas, and Massachusetts. The 2027 Cohort applications open May 1, and summer small groups are around the corner. visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to join in the community!
E197: Will Schewee (4) - The Enneagram Goes to College
ListenedMeet the eldest of Suzanne's 9 grandchildren! William Alexander Schewee IV, enneagram 4, joins the show with his uncle and a couple of grandparents, including of course, the Enneagram Godmother. You'll learn about "Bros' Nights", the differences and similarities between fours and sevens, our different ways of connection including: how do you respond to people singing happy birthday to you?! And remember, hope will not leave you disappointed! PLUG TIME: Joey Stabile Schewee's new book, "When Working Together Doesn't Work" is now available everywhere books are sold! Grab your copy and show her some love with a review and rating. The Enneagram AND...marches on. Next up is Colorado Springs with the great KJ Ramsey and The Enneagram AND Trauma. Get your tickets to join in person or online by visiting lifeinthetrinityministry.com/enneagramand
E196: The Micah Center: a Eulogy
ListenedJoin us in escorting The Micah Center on to the next plain. Suzanne, Joe, and Hunter sit down for one final conversation at The Micah Center, the home of LTM for the past 20 years. As you'll hear in the intro, this episode is heavy on the "Journey" aspect of the podcast and light on any "enneagram" talk. Suzanne and Joe always are quick to say that the enneagram is just a tool. A GREAT tool, but just one. The Micah Center was so much more than a tool. It became a safe space for thousands of people to go to. Stay hard Micah Center! If The Micah Center means something to you, or had an impact on your life, we would love to hear about it. CLICK HERE to leave a voicemail sharing some Micah Center love or memories. Ready to join the Enneagram AND tour 2026?! The first event is at the end of January, and we're continuing on into the summer. The Enneagram AND Parenting The Enneagram AND Spirituality The Enneagram AND Truama The Enneagram AND Your Body The Enneagram AND Stress Join live or join us virtually online…
E195: Larissa Miller (4) and Kim Honeycutt (8) - Compassion, Confrontation, Authenticity
ListenedThe Enneagram Journey may be recording next at your local Hilton! Maybe not, but this episode was fun to record at Joel's hotel room when LTM travelled to Charlotte, NC for a workshop. Kim Honeycutt (8) and Larissa Miller (4) join the show to talk about their relationship, their journey, justice, and what do you know about polyvagal theory? You can find out more about what Kim and Larissa are up to at icutalks.org, watershedcharlotte.com and kimhoneycutt.com PLUG TIME!!!! The Enneagram AND 2026 Tour is around the corner! The Enneagram and Parenting in Nashville, TN - The Enneagram and Spirituality in Jackson, MS - The Enneagram and Trauma in Colorado Springs, CO - The Enneagram and Your Body in Minneapolis, MN - The Enneagram and Stress in California. Join us in person, or join us online virtually! Get all of the important information and registration at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/enneagramand Today's Intro: The Waterboy (1998, Touchstone Pictures) Bob's Burgers (s15, e1 FOX) Breaking Bad (s4, e6 AMC)
E194: Jess Everlee (5) - Lucky Lovers of London
ListenedMeet author and Enneagram 5, Jess Everlee! 4 books, one for the Head, one for the Heart, and one for the Body, and how about one featuring a couple of Sixes! Jess shares about figuring out her enneagram number, which ones are the easiest and most difficult for her to write, and about being married to an 8. "I mistyped my own teen angst as a 4. But, since it was a mistype, it wasn't useful." - JE All romance lovers need to check out her Lucky Lovers of London series, and you can learn more about Jess at jesseverlee.com
Joey Stabile Schewee - When Working Together Doesn't Work
ListenedLTM's very own Joey Stabile Schewee is back on The Journey! Gather everyone around the water cooler in the office and turn up the volume, because you and your team don't want to miss this episode. Joey, enneagram 8, the best enneagram teacher you'll find for the corporate setting shares with the listeners about her work. Which number mistypes the most? Which number is mistyped as the most? Who has the greatest difficulty managing others? What do you know about the 4th Step? Her new book, When Working Together Doesn't Work, comes out in March, but it isn't too early to pre-order. You can pre-order your copy here. It also isn't too late to join us on Saturday, September 27th online or in Dallas to hear Joey teach! Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to learn more and sign up. And visit wesolutions.life to learn more about Joey and her corporate enneagram teaching. TODAY'S INTRO Corporate (S1, E3 - Comedy Central) Office Space (1999, Mike Judge) Corporate (S2, E4 - Comedy Central)
Dr. Molly (8) - Anxiety, Egregious Self Confidence, Grief and Loss
ListenedDr. Molly sayyyyyyyyys, you're gonna love this podcast! Welcome Dr. Molly Brinkmann to The Journey! Enneagram 8, married to an enneagram 6 (Ryan), mother, veterinarian, and social media bad ass. We get a good amount of work talk in, co-parenting as an 8 and a 6, the anxiety of not only sixes, but all numbers, and more. Also a special spot appearance from fellow 8, Joey Schewee. To learn more about Molly, be sure and give her instagram account a follow, @drmollysays and check out The Dr. Molly Says Podcast! It is time to hear from Enneagram 8 listeners for a new episode of Others On The Journey! Suzanne and Molly talk about what betrayal means to them and to Eights. We would like to hear from our Enneagram 8 listeners on what betrayal means to you, and if you can give some examples. Visit theenneagramjourney.com/contact and leave a voicemail with your response for our next Others On The Journey podcast episode. Heck, this podcast is solitary work that we cannot do alone! PLUG TIME When Working Together…
Austin Channing Brown (9) - Foreboding Joy, Full Of Myself
ListenedWelcome to The Journey Austin Channing Brown! Enneagram 9, Austin Channing shares some of her wisdom and experience in this episode, including what we think is a CRAZY story about her time as an enneagram 9 employed at a church. Decision Making Passive Aggressive Anger Repressed Doing Foreboding Joy and Artificial Joy (brace yourselves 7s!) I'm Still Here and Full Of Myself Full Of Myself is available soon, so preorder today, and be sure to visit austinchanning.com ! Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to see everything that Suzanne, Joe, and LTM are up to. The LTM Enneagram Cohort Program application deadline is September 1! Small groups are about to begin, and the next round will start in December 2026 Enneagram and Spirituality in Charlotte in September A Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Center and so much more! Today's Intro Joy by for King + Country The Office (NBC, s2, e8) The Office (NBC, s7, e14)
Q&A - July 2025
ListenedQ&A Episode in the house! We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!). "Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess up?" Then we get to talk about: 9s with an 8 wing, or are they extroverted, or are they another number?! Gut Types How each individual number in each Triad deals with Anger, Fear, or Shame Essence v Personality 9s and Anger and more! Keep the questions coming! You can submit yours at theenneagramjourney.org/contact PLUG TIME Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com ! Yup, that's the plug. So much upcoming opportunities, from A Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Center, to 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp, to IEA Experience 2025, to new books and new small groups. We want you to be a part of it. So, visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com and be a part of a wonderful community! TODAY'S INTRO Captain Phillips (2013, Columbia Pictures) Ron Swanson (Parks and Rec, s3, e9) Angry Woman (Ashe, 2022)
TEJ Live at 7 & 1 Books with Jen Rogers (8) - Objective Perspective, Dragon Slaying, Escape Plans
ListenedLive shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way! Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life, and then chase all of that with some Q&A with the audience. Find 7&1 books and learn more about them by visiting sevenandonebooks.com “If you haven’t done enneagram work, it’s hard to see value in people that see the world different than you do.” - Jen Rogers PLUG TIME 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp "What Is Mine To Do?" August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc IEA Global Conference IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN ieaexperience.com Spirituality and the Enneagram ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC September 5-6, 2025 lifeinthetrinityministry.com/charlotte Book Release Party for Letting Go, Finding You The Micah Center in Dallas, TX August 29, 2025…
Jen Hanson (2) - Boundaries, False Self-esteem, Forgive Yourself
ListenedLet's do some math. 2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey! Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings. Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries? The strengths of being a Two and working with children and youth. Parenting with the struggles of social media. Should one of Suzanne's spiritual practices be getting massages regularly?! aaaaaaaand more "How would we measure our value in relationships if it didn't involve our responding to every Feeling with Doing?" - SS You can find out more about Jen and all of the good going on at Northaven by visiting www.northaven.org PLUG TIME 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp "What Is Mine To Do?" August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc The King Speaker Series Enneagram Stances June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas (Registration closes May 30!)…
Russ Hudson (5) - Holy Ideas, Cultural Parameters, What To Hold On To
ListenedRuss Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind! The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne! How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years? Russ shares their 3 rules he and Don had when writing The Wisdom of The Enneagram We're not just talking about the 3 Centers of Intelligence today, but also the 3 Body Centers Holy Ideas, enneagram and creativity, and more "You can't get to the Holy Ideas if you don't get landed in your body and heart." - RH To learn more about everything Russ has going on, visit russhudson.com ! PLUG TIME 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp "What Is Mine To Do?" August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc The King Speaker Series Enneagram Stances June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas 1pres.org/kingspeaker IEA Global Conference IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN…
Tori Hastings (5) - Vulnerability, 2nd Shift, Engaging
ListenedMeet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5! As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of Intelligence? "You don't achieve balance by pushing the top (center of intelligence) down. You achieve balance by pulling the bottom up." - SS "I don't do much of anything in real time..." - TH PLUG TIME 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp "What Is Mine To Do?" August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc The King Speaker Series Enneagram Stances June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas 1pres.org/kingspeaker IEA Global Conference IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN ieaexperience.com THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and…
Katie Whitlock (3) - Deceit, Escaping to the Future, 9fold
ListenedGet your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel). Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much good wisdom in this one Escaping to the future What do you do when you're restless? Balance Doing Enneagram work, but identifying as the wrong number Do you respond to strangers online? Some input from Joey Schewee aka @enneagramparents and more! "Functional is not good enough. You should want more than functional." - KW PLUG TIME 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp "What Is Mine To Do?" August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc The King Speaker Series Enneagram Stances June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas 1pres.org/kingspeaker IEA Global Conference IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN ieaexperience.com THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply…
Darnell (1) & Alex (8) Finale - Cohort, Excess, Indignation
ListenedAlex and Darnell are back to share their final thoughts and feelings about their experience in the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne! If this series of conversations with Darnell and Alex has raised your interest in the LTM Cohort program, we hope you will check it out and apply. Applications for the following year's Cohort program are accepted April 1 - September 1. You can get the dates, descriptions, expectations, and application at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram Other Plugs 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp "What Is Mine To Do?" August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc The King Speaker Series Enneagram Stances June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas 1pres.org/kingspeaker IEA Global Conference IEA Enneagram Experience 2025 July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN ieaexperience.com You can find out what the podcast is up to and other offerings from Life in the Trinity Ministry by visiting lifeinthetrinityministry.com. TODAY'S INTRO Des Bishop - Mindfulness F.R.I.E.N.D.S. (NBC,…
Sara Whitlock (2) - Saying No, Feeling v Thinking
ListenedYou've asked for more Enneagram Twos on the show, and here is a great start! Meet Sara Whitlock. Sara is a nurse practitioner from Ohio. Married to JD, an Enneagram 5, she and one of her daughters were both a part of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne (we'll get to hear from her daughter Katie in an upcoming episode!). PLUG TIME Great events coming up: TheoEd Talks Nashville - February 23 in Nashville at Woolworth Theatre or Online The Enneagram Journey Live - February 25 in Nashville at Beam Gallery A Contemplative, Healing, Enneagram - February 28 and March 1 in Nashville at Woodmont Christian Church Relationships and the Enneagram - March 7-8 in South Carolina at Bethel UMC 2025 IEA Global Conference - July 25-25 in Minneapolis 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp - SAVE THE DATE! August 7-9 in Dallas and Online Today's Intro The Breakup (2006, Universal Pictures) Scrubs (S3, E5) American Dad (S10, E8)
Laura Murray (4) - Home, Hospitality, Spiritual Practice
ListenedHappy 2025 to everyone on their Enneagram Journey! And even to those who haven't started yet. The first episode of the year is fantastic and features pastor, spiritual director, and author Laura Murray, Enneagram 4. Laura is married to an Enneagram 5 The difference between Home and where you belong Some surprising Enneagram Wing discussion with Suzanne Spiritual Practices Parenting and more Below you will find the practice of Examen that Laura shared with us. You can also find a link for it in PDF format at theenneagramjourney.com in her episode. You can find out more about Laura and all the great things she is doing at laurabmurray.com. In the introduction of this episode, you heard a lot of plugs! TheoEd Nashville - Sunday, February 23 - theoed.com/nashville A Contemplative, Healing, Enneagram - February 28, March 1 in Nashville - lifeinthetrinityministry.com/nashville EnneaSummit 2025 featuring Suzanne and the Reverend - February 4-7 Online - CLICK HERE for information and registration Relationships and…
Jonathan Merritt (3) - Navigating Relationships, My Guncle and Me
ListenedYour Enneagram Godmother and an Enneagram Guncle got together for this INCREDIBLE conversation! If you don't know Jonathan yet, Enneagram 3, this is a wonderful introduction. "...othering the other that othered them." It'll make more sense after you hear him talk about it! Jonathan is a writer on faith and culture, the author of Learning To Speak God From Scratch, Jesus is Better Than You Imagined, My Guncle and Me and a few other great reads. You can find him on Instagram @jonathan_merritt and online at jonathanmerritt.com PLUG TIME! OOOOOHHHHHH, don't let this event sell out without you being a part of it: A Contemplative, Healing, Enneagram with Rev. Joseph and Suzanne Stabile, and Hunter Mobley. February 28 - March 1, 2025 in Nashville, TN CLICK HERE FOR TICKETS or visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com/nashville Today's INTRO The Office (S3, E1) Modern Family (S4, E21) The Other Guys (Columbia Pictures 2010)
Br5aking The Cycle
ListenedThe Enneagram Godmother + The Great Russ Hudson + The Reverend Where do we sign up?!?! Today's podcast episode comes from the LTM teaching event in Dallas, Br5aking The Cycle (don't worry, you'll learn why it is spelled that way and what 5a means). As you'll hear Joel explain, this 2 hour teaching is only the opening for the rest of the next 10 hours, but it is an entire workshop in itself! There is nobody Suzanne holds in higher regard when it comes to Enneagram Wisdom than Russ Hudson. The real magic that comes out in this weekend's teaching is that Suzanne, Joe, and Russ are each in different Enneagram Triads: Suzanne, Heart - Russ, Head - Reverend, Gut. And the teaching is on Enneagram Triads, managing your dominant center of intelligence, and how we br5ak this darn cycle! Wanna send Suzanne a message while she is recovering? CLICK HERE PLUG TIME If you want to continue on this journey of Br5aking The Cycle, you can purchase the entire workshop during the month of October and get it at 40% off!! Be…
October 2024 Q&A
ListenedIts Q&A time on The Enneagram Journey! Suzanne and Joel sat down to record today's episode at The Micah Center and decided at the last moment to turn on the camera. Having the camera on contributed to the conversation about seeing a therapist and accountability, and the show just takes off from there. Some of the things you'll here in this episode: A question about a 7 and 5 relationship this leads to some subtype talk What needs to fall away when you go to therapy? Enneagram 6s and Trust Are 6s the most controlling personality? A 4 and 5 parenting adult children A great Chuck Knoblauch joke that Suzanne talked over aaaaand more! "Tell me what you want, and I'll tell you whether or not I can give it to you." PLUG TIME 2025 is going to be the year that LTM gets around the country! Several stops already locked in: Arkansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, Minnesota, Texas. And many more that are in the works! Be sure and subscribe to the LTM newsletter to get the latest updates on these events and everything else…
Darnell (1) and Alex (8) - Be Right or In Relationship?, Triggers, Enneagram Cohort
ListenedThe second half of 2024 is well underway and so is the second half of the 2024 Cohort Program. Welcome back Alex Reegan (enneagram 8) and Darnell Young (enneagram 1)! Our third guest, Matt Lesser (8), couldn't join us for this conversation, but he'll be back at the end of the year for sure! Today's episode is fantastic: Is "triggered" still a term we should be using? Who decides? Would you rather be Right or in Relationship? Armor and Privilege Tattoo Talk When are you vulnerable? Orientation to Time! We think it would be hard to listen to this episode and not want to apply for the 2025 Cohort Program. So, LTM has extended the application deadline to September 1, 2024. Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025cohort for all of the information, expectations, and applications. BIG PLUG!! The Enneagram and Spiritual Practices September 6-7, Birmingham, AL with Rev. Joseph and Suzanne Stabile Join the Reverend and The Enneagram Godmother for a weekend diving into our enneagram personalities, specifically Stance…
Micky ScottBey Jones (1) - Accompaniment, Doula, Burnout
ListenedMeet The Justice Doula, Micky ScottBey Jones! Originally mistyped as an 8, which makes a ton of sense, she found her inner critic and her "inner BFF" as an Enneagram 1, and no accompanies others as they birth precious things into the world like love, empathy, self-compassion, liberation, healing and resilience. You can find out more about Micky at mickyscottbeyjones.com PLUG TIME 2024 Enneagram Bootcamp Stress, Loss, & Relationships August 1-3 in Dallas, TX or join Online This is LTM's biggest teaching event of the year, and we are thrilled to be back at The Grove Church in Dallas again. There are still some in person tickets available, but if you can't make it to Dallas we hope you will join online. Everyone registered will have access to the replay of the event as well. Join Suzanne and Joe for 3 days of learning, growth, and community! visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com for all of the important info and to register! TODAY's INTRO Michael W. Smith, Place In This World 1991 The Today Show (NBC, 2019) Parks…
Luke Norsworthy (7) - How to Love the Life You Already Have
ListenedWe've officially named Luke the first member of The Enneagram Journey 5 Timer Club! It's a big deal. Not as big a deal though as his latest book, How To Love The Life You Already Have. If you're looking for the Richard Rohr books Suzanne suggests to read in order (he has many more great ones!) here they are: Everything Belongs, The Naked Now, Falling Upward, Immortal Diamond. Luke (Enneagram 7), Suzanne, and Joel got a little distracted by some great conversation, so Suzanne and Luke are going to continue their talk on Instagram Live Wednesday, July 3 at 3:00 pm CST. You can find Suzanne on Instagram @suzannestabile and Luke @lukeanorsworthy We will try to add the link or the video to theenneagramjourney.com if you cannot join live. Are you signed up for 2024 Enneagram Bootcamp: Stress, Loss, & Relationships? Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com for all of the important information for the Enneagram event of the year, including pre-conference Yoga workshop with Courtney Perry, aka Yenneagram, and a…
Tony Jones (8) - The God of Wild Places
ListenedEnneagram 8, Tony Jones, steps out of the woods and into The Micah Center to sit down with Suzanne and her husband, Rev. Joseph Stabile, to talk about his latest book, The God of Wild Places. “One of the things I like about the wilderness is that it is not controllable. We’ve paved too many wild places.” If you haven't read The God of Wild Places yet, no worries! Give this episode a listen and it will get you prepped for it. PLUG TIME! June 2024 is full of great sales at LTM. All shirts are only $5 Prayer Beads are in stock All books are between $5 - $13 New Enneagram Bracelets for $10 Free shipping on all orders over $9 with the code PROUD And be sure to check out the upcoming teaching events in Charleston, South Carolina, Birmingham, Alabama, and of course Enneagram Bootcamp in August here in Dallas or online! You can find out about all of this and so much more (don't forget to apply for the 2025 LTM Cohort program!!) by visiting lifeinthetrinityministry.com TODAY'S INTRO Big Yellow Taxi by Counting Crows…
Chanel Dokun (1) - Binding Wounds, Liturgies, Reclaim the Morning
Listened"You can’t treat what you haven’t diagnosed and you can’t diagnose what you haven’t assessed." - Chanel Dokun "You can't fix what you can't name." - Suzanne Stabile Yeah, the two of them could talk for way longer than an hour! But, for today, let's meet Enneagram One, Chanel Dokun. She is a mother of two, life coach, speaker, and author of Life Starts Now. To find out more about Chanel and what she is doing in the world, visit chaneldokun.com. SUPER PROMOS today Alabama, The Enneagram and Spiritual Practices with Suzanne and Rev. Joseph Stabile, September 6-7 CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO AND TICKETS South Carolina, The Enneagram and Relationships with the Enneagram Godmother, October 4-5 CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO AND TICKETS Texas and Online, 2024 Enneagram Bootcamp: Stress, Loss, and Relationships with Suzanne Stabile and LTM, August 1-3 CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO AND TICKETS The 2025 Cohort Program The deadline to apply is August 20, 2024, so there is time, but don't miss out on this incredible opportunity to…
Alison McCrary (3) Part Two - Calling and Community
ListenedThe highly anticipated second part of our conversation with Alison McCrary (enneagram 3) is here! The Reverend (Joseph Stabile) takes host duties in today's episode as he and Alison talk about their callings and their journey. Alison started Methodist and now is Catholic. Joe started Catholic and now is Methodist. Wow, the journey they've been on! Would the Reverend make a good butcher? Alison and the Black Panthers teaming up? Could Suzanne and Joe keep up with Alison for a day? Today's episode is light on enneagram, but so heavy on Journey, and we think that is a great thing, and hope you do too! Two links from the podcast that we hope you'll check out: Alison talks about her work with inmates on death row. If you would like to learn more and support that ministry, click here. And, if you want to learn more about Alison and all she is doing in the world, visit alisonmccrary.com PLUG TIME! 1. Enneagram Bootcamp is August 1-3, and May is the final month to take advantage of the Early Bird price! If you are…
Alison McCrary (3) - Big 3 Energy, Spiritual Practices, Queer Eye
Listened"A contemplative practice is any act, habitually entered into with your whole heart, as a way of awakening, deepening, and sustaining a contemplative experience of the inherent holiness of the present moment." -James Finley What an honor it is to have Alison McCrary join us on The Enneagram Journey! Who knows the people you might get to talk to when you're just sitting on the couch watching an episode of Queer Eye?! Alison, an enneagram 3, is a New Orleans based political, cultural, and spiritual warrior. She learned her number when she was in formation to become a Catholic Sister. Two great things about this episode. First, the Reverend joins the show! Second, we knew there was going to be so much to talk about that this is the first part of a two parter. To learn more about Alison and the great things she is doing in the world, visit alisonmccrary.com And for those looking for her Spotify Playlists, you'll find them here 2024 Enneagram Bootcamp - August 1-3 - in Dallas or join Online! Stress, Loss, and…
Matt Lesser (8) - Enneagram Cohort, Assessments, his Dark Night of the Soul
ListenedMeet Enneagram Eight, Matt Lesser, the third third of the first third of our series with three members of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort! The man has done some work, and he shares his journey with us beginning with a life threatening illness when he was 15, depression in his twenties, and his dark night of the soul. He left the corporate world in 2021 and started his own business, beginning with two books, Unsatisfied: When Less Is More and Unengaged: Building Flourishing Organizations. Learn more about Matt and what he is doing at uniquelynormal.com PLUG TIME! Too too too much to plug, so you need to hop over to lifeinthetrinityministry.com and start with the Events Page. 2 upcoming Know Your Number workshops, the deadline for the 2024 Leading Change Cohort, and the Super Early Bird Special for the 2024 Enneagram Cohort, and some great other things and stuff! Just in case you missed it a few lines earlier, lifeinthetrinityministry.com ! TODAY'S INTRO F.R.I.E.N.D.S (S8, E2) Step Brothers (2008 Columbia Pictures)…
Alex Reegan (8) - Enneagram Cohort, Both/And, Shamanic Spirituality
ListenedWelcome to Part 2 of what we envision to be a 9 part series throughout 2024 following 3 members of The LTM Enneagram Cohort features, enneagram 8, Alex Reegan! Alex Reegan is the author of What Needs To Be Said, as well as an interfaith minister, speaker, and transformative spiritual coach who uses his intuitive wisdom to help guide people towards their own inner knowing. Born into an evangelical Christian family that prevented his true identity as a trans man from emerging, he spent years in depression, anxiety, and addiction trying to break free of the oppressive beliefs that bound him. His journey at last led him to sobriety, shamanism and then seminary, which helped him reclaim his faith and trust in the Divine. Through speaking engagements, workshops, one-on-one and group sessions with clients, Alex is profoundly dedicated to helping others speak their truth, release shame, and find oneness. SUPER DUPER PLUG TIME! Registration is now open for the 2024 Enneagram Bootcamp: The Enneagram: Stress, Loss, and…
Darnell Young (1) - Enneagram Cohort, Critic Talk, Context
ListenedThis is the first episode of an anticipated 10 Episode series over the next year, that we're really excited for! You have most likely heard about the LTM Cohort program on the podcast, and what better way to talk about it then to follow along with 3 Cohort members? On today's show, meet Enneagram One Darnell Young. She has always been interested in the behavior of others and the motivation behind people's behavior. In being introduced to the Enneagram, Darnell felt the tool put a name, or number, to how she viewed people. She loves to share information with others to bring them to awareness of themselves and others around them. In the next couple of episodes listeners will also meet Matt and Alex from the 2024 Enneagram Cohort. If you're interested in applying for the LTM Cohort program, there is still time to apply for the 2024 Leading Change Cohort, and the dates, expectations, and application for the 2025 program will open up in the Spring! Want to dip your toes before diving into a Cohort? CLICK HERE to…
"The Monday Group" - Small Groups, Spiritual Formation, and Barbie
ListenedMeet some of the members of LTM's first online Enneagram Journey Curriculum group! Suzanne and Joel talk with Chelsea (8), Jennifer (4), Maria (2), Marty (2), Hillary (2), Matt (6), and Ronna (8) in today's episode about how they found each other and what the Journey has been like so far. Then the conversation evolved into a discussion about where we find our shadow side and false self in enneagram work, the greatness of the Barbie movie, spiral dynamics, and the importance of intergenerational learning. If you don't have a group yet, find one! Create one! Join one! You've heard it over and over again, one of the mottos of LTM and The Micah Center is, "A place for solitary work that cannot be done alone." LTM will be starting a few new small groups in 2024, and the information for the 2025 Cohort program will be available soon! Be sure to visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to see what is new and upcoming at LTM TODAY'S INTRO Barbie (2023) South Park (S7, E12) Bar Rescue (2011, Paramount Network)
Josh Graves (3) - The Simple Secret
Listened"Marriage has taught me that two people can experience reality in two very different ways." - Josh Graves Welcome Josh Graves, preaching and teaching minister at Otter Creek Church in Nashville, TN and author of The Simple Secret: Choosing Love in a Culture of Hostility, and an Enneagram 3. A little subtype talk, a little family systems talk, relationships (of course), and do you know if you're playing the game? This is a GOOOOOOD, good book! You can get your copy here on Amazon. PLUG TIME Clear your calendar! August 1st through August 3rd, the 2024 Enneagram Bootcamp with Suzanne in Dallas and online. There is no experience that can replace being in Dallas in person for the event, but a second option is joining online if you can't be there in person. Suzanne and LTM are working on the material right now, and as soon as the weekend's teaching is set, we will let you know. For now just go ahead and make those travel plans for Thursday, August 1 through Saturday, August 3rd! We wouldn’t be able to have…
Jeff Crosby (9) - Spiritual Practice of Reading, Forgiveness, Language of the Soul
ListenedIf you're a fan of The Enneagram Journey then there is a good chance you're a fan of books. Today's episode is filled with good book talk because Suzanne's dear friend Jeff Crosby is on the show. Jeff, Enneagram Nine and author of The Language of The Soul, shares his experience as a 9, what forgiveness means to him, and much more. Find out more about Jeff at jeffreycrosby.net and click here to get your copy of The Language of The Soul. The Enneagram Journey podcast is produced by Life in the Trinity Ministry, a 501c(3) non-profit ministry. The podcast, workshops, Cohorts, and other enneagram and spiritual formation resources are made possible with your support and financial contributions. Click here to donate at lifeinthetrinityministry.com or visit theenneagramjourney.com Thank you for your continued support of the podcast and LTM! TODAY'S INTRO: Shadowlands (1993, Richard Attenborough) We're The Millers (2013, New Line Cinema) The Office deleted scenes with Michael Scott Bruce Cockburn, "Orders" live on…
December 2023 Q&A
ListenedIt's been a busy season, but The Enneagram Journey is back with a fantastic episode of Q&A with Suzanne, and a special appearance from Dr. Andy Stoker. CLICK HERE to ask a question for a future Q&A episode! "Enneagram 7s Reframe, Enneagram 3s Restructure" The Seventh Law of Emotional Triangles What is nikhedonia? PLUG TIME! The 4 Mantras and The Holidays is Saturday, December 9th Show Up Pay Attention Tell the Truth Don't Attach to the Results Now do all of that and have a fun, bright, and beautiful holiday season! Maybe not so easy? Well this workshop can help! Register to join online from anywhere in the world. Registration includes access to the Live teaching, the replay if you can't make it on the 9th or need to pop in and out, as well as a free audio download of the workshop. More information and registration at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/4mantras Thank you for subscribing and listening to The Enneagram Journey Podcast. LTM is a 501c3 non-profit ministry, and your donations help us to keep the podcast…
Jason Miller (5) - Promiscuous, Non-Anxious, When The World Breaks
ListenedYou may know that Suzanne was introduced to the world of podcasting through friend of the show, Luke Norsworthy. Now Luke has introduced Suzanne to Jason Miller, Enneagram 5, pastor at South Bend City Church and author of When The World Breaks. We'll get a peek at their relationship and Jason's affection for all Sevens! What is it like to be an enneagram Five and a church planter? Are you a non-anxious individual? And, lets reexamine our feelings about the word promiscuous. “In our dualistic culture, a neutral stand is not appreciated.” - SS PLUG TIME The 4 Mantras with Suzanne Stabile - at The Micah Center and Online Show Up Pay Attention Tell The Truth Don't Get Attached to the Results Saturday, December 9th at The Micah Center with an online option for those who can't make it in person. There is no better time to walk through and with these Mantras than leading into Christmas and the New Year. AND, there is no better person to learn them from than Suzanne. REGISTER HERE "I was reading Richard Rohr before…
Brian Lee (1) - Security Line, Perfect/Correct/Right, Broken to Beloved
ListenedEnneagram Ones, have you named your Inner Critic? In this episode, Brian Lee shares his relationship with his Critic, as well as his journey from Broken to Beloved. Suzanne and Brian talk about Ennneagram One's relationship with Perfection and it what that my mean, and a great discussion about the line that Ones and Sevens share. This episode also includes a special appearance from Enneagram 8, Joey Schewee! PLUG TIME The Road Back to You has sold over 1 Million copies! If you or someone you know needs a fresh copy, during the month of October LTM is selling personalized/signed copies of The Road Back to You for $13 (a Stabile lucky number). Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com and let Suzanne know who to sign it for and we'll get it headed your way. Early Christmas present?! Also, join LTM, Suzanne, and The Enneagram Journey for a celebration and live podcast recording at The Ivey Tavern in Dallas near Love Field airport on Friday, October 20th. The celebration is free to attend, but if you want to lock in a…
Mallory Wyckoff (3) - Curiosity, Imaginative Prayer, God Is
ListenedChanneling our inner Jeff Foxworthy... If you've ever thought to yourself, "How can I make sure people already know that I know the Enneagram and that I'm not new to it like they are?", you might be an Enneagram 3! Welcome Mallory Wyckoff to The Enneagram Journey! Mallory Wyckoff (DMin, MTS) is a writer, speaker, spiritual director, and peacemaker. She also serves as key relationships officer with Search for Common Ground, the world’s largest organization dedicated to peacebuilding. Having completed her dissertation on the impact of sexual trauma on survivors’ theological perception and spiritual formation, Mallory has a DMin in missional and spiritual formation. Today's episode includes talk about Curiosity, the difference between an Enneagram 1 and 3, Shame, Imaginative Prayer, and discussion about her newest book, God Is. You can find out more about Mallory at mallorywyckoff.com TODAY'S PLUG: The 4 Mantras and The Holidays with Suzanne Stabile Saturday, December 9th in Dallas and Online Show Up, Pay…
Change, Change, Change
ListenedVery cool episode of The Enneagram Journey podcast today. In the Spring of 2023 Suzanne and Joe taught a 2 day workshop on Change. Change and Spirituality, Change and the Enneagram, Change and Me, Change and You, CHANGE! The conversation today between Joe and Suzanne is the second segment of that workshop after the Reverend's opening. You can find that opening teaching here on the LTM website. The entire workshop will be available beginning September 12th in the LTM store. PLUG TIME Suzanne is teaching in Dallas September 23rd, in Houston September 30th, and in Porterville, CA October 13-14. We hope you can make it for one of these events! You can find all of the information and links for registration at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/events TODAY'S INTRO Early Mornin' Stoned Pimp, Kid Rock Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (2004 DreamWorks Pictures) Changes, David Bowie Scrubs (S2.E14) Changes, 2Pac
August 2023 Q&A
ListenedIts your monthly Q&A session with Suzanne! I'm struggling between knowing if I'm a 1 or a 2 Question from a 6 and 9 in relationship and new to the enneagram Several questions about Enneagram 4s and relationships How can a 5 and 9 get stuff done? A parenting question AND MORE "It's never really a matter of the withdrawing stance not knowing what to do. It's a matter of wanting to do what needs to be done." PLUG TIME Its a quick plug, but a great one! The Road Back to You has sold over 1 MILLION copies!!! Join LTM and The Enneagram Journey podcast in celebrating on Friday, October 20th at The Ivy Tavern in Dallas. There will be a live recording of the podcast and you'll get to be around the LTM community as well as other enneagram enthusiasts in a really fun cool atmosphere. You can find all of the information as it is made available at lifeinthetrinityministry.com Congratulations Suzanne!! TODAY'S INTRO: Family Guy (S16, E12) "Just Breathe", Pearl Jam (2009) The Office (S9, E18) Just Friends (New Line Cinema,…
Jasmine Miller (6) - Layered Thinking & Doing Things Afraid
ListenedMeet Jasmine Miller! Enneagram 6, mother of two, married to Nat (9), and your new favorite Public Service Announcer. In today's episode, we're going to listen to a little of the show Lost, talk about Fear and Anxiety, journaling, and what it's like to be an enneagram 6 with two little ones around. PLUG TIME: Two upcoming events! Houston, TX - September 30, 2024 join Suzanne at St. Paul's UMC for Relationships and the Enneagram. Click here for more information and registration. Porterville, Ca - October 13-14 you can dive into The Path Between Us and Relationships and the Enneagram with Suzanne on her birthday! Want to know what present to give her: your attendance! Click here for more information and registration. Don't wait until it is too late to apply for the 2024 LTM Cohort Program! The final day to apply is September 1, 2023. Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2024cohorts for all of the dates, information and application. LTM is a place for solitary work that cannot be done alone, and the Cohort program…
Back to School with the Enneagram Parents
ListenedIt is that time! Joey and Billy Schewee ,aka the Enneagram Parents, join Suzanne and Joel at The Micah Center to talk about this magical time of the year that is: BACK TO SCHOOL TIME! They're going to share some of their experiences, what they've learned from others on The Journey and help us to better understand our children during this transitional period as well as help us make some better parenting choices. After listening, we're sure you'll want to find them on social media. They're most active on Instagram and Facebook @enneagramparents. PLUG TIME 2023 Enneagram Bootcamp: Naming and Navigating was so wonderful. You can still register to watch the replay of all 3 days of teaching at lifeinthetrinityministry.com. Apply today for the 2024 LTM Cohort Program! In 2024 LTM will offer 4 Cohorts: The Enneagram Cohort, The Contemplative Cohort, The Family Systems Cohort, and the Deconstruction/Reconstruction Cohort. Click here to find the dates, descriptions, and expectations as well as the application. LTM is…
June 2023 Q&A
ListenedA lot packed into today's episode! This Q&A conversation was recorded in front of a live audience on The Table. Suzanne answers questions that have been sent in via the voicemail app on theenneagramjourney.com as well as some that were submitted live during the recording. What is her experience with twins and enneagram numbers? Comparing a 7 in stress vs. an 8 in low space Mistyping between a 1 and 4 2s and altruistic giving aaaaand more! PLUG TIME! Kansas City, June 23-24, The Enneagram with Suzanne Stabile. Find your enneagram number and explore the role it plays in your life and in your relationships. Tickets are only $30 at Resurrection UMC. Click here for more information and registration. 2023 Enneagram Bootcamp: Naming and Navigating, August 3-5 The flagship event each year for LTM. This 3 day teaching event is for everyone no matter where you are on your Enneagram Journey. Suzanne will be combining Enneagram Triad teaching with Enneagram Stance wisdom to help participants better name and navigate…
Sandra Van Opstal (8) & Karl Ostroski (1) - Getting Things Done
ListenedA groundbreaking show! TEJ's first 8 and 1 conversation! You probably know Sandra from the Enneagram Daily Reflections Series, she authored 40 Days on Being an 8. If you don't know her yet, get to meet her and her husband Karl in today's episode. Don't get distracted by the frog talk in the start of this conversation, it's going somewhere... The importance of Intentionality "Let's make it happen." Justice Parenting “I have a motivation of how do I make sure no one can scold me for anything.” - Karl (1) “Rest feels like a choice to me, and I’ve had to undo that.” - Sandra (8) PLUG TIME! Know Your Number with Suzanne in Kansas City at Resurrection UMC this June! June 23-24 at their Leawood Campus, tickets are only! $30!!! What a great weekend vacation getaway! CLICK HERE for all the information and to get your tickets. Looking forward to seeing you there! Is it time for you to join an LTM Cohort? While you're discerning, click on the link below for all of the info, dates, expectations, and the application.…
Kendra Adachi (1) - The Lazy Genius
Listened"How can we 'Lazy Genius' this?" Find out in this episode of The Enneagram Journey with enneagram 1, Kendra Adachi! Kendra and Suzanne talk about: their perspectives as a 1 and a 2 in the world The Dependent Stance and their relationship with Childhood Wounds is Joel a man-child? (Spoiler: his is) Anger, Connection, and Acceptance After today's show you'll be wanting to visit thelazygeniuscollective.com And be sure and subscribe to The Lazy Genius podcast! PLUG TIME! Enneagram Bootcamp registration is OPEN!!! August 3-5 in Dallas, TX join Suzanne and LTM as we learn how to best Name and Navigate our experience. This three day weekend is the flagship event for Life in the Trinity Ministry each year where members of the growing LTM and enneagram community, both new and old, come together to grow compassion and understanding. You can find all of the important information and registration at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/23bc We're thrilled this year that Courtney Perry (yennneagram.com) will be leading a…
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