Gary and Shannon

HOUR 1 (10/12): Eleven years on the air, and Shannon wants to celebrate by getting suspended 🙈. Gary and Shannon mark their anniversary and gear up for their first Ventura County News & Brews, October 22 at BJ’s in Westlake Village! Tim Cates joins the Dodgers panic check while Shannon nurses her Chargers heartbreak. Plus, storm cleanup in Long Beach and Florida, the NFL weekend and #TerrorInTheSkies: arriving early but missing your flight, and a pregnant passenger’s carry-on dispute. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (10/12): Gary and Shannon scrutinize Nithya Raman’s shifting positions as Kalshi gives her a narrow edge over Karen Bass, then question Steve Hilton’s strategy with his winning odds at just 4%. Listeners share 11th-anniversary wishes before Shannon sizes up Gary’s legs as prime mosquito territory. Plus, L.A.’s mosquito complaints, West Nile concerns and Waymo’s very human problems, including a Santa Monica neighborhood’s fight over its charging facilities. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (10/12): Your birthday says one thing. Can your body, brain and social skills back it up? Gary and Shannon preview the Super Age Games, then explore why the Emmys and Oscars are heading to streaming while the Grammys keep a broadcast home. Plus, #SwampWatch tackles Trump’s claimed Russia–Ukraine energy ceasefire and rogue AI concerns, while #WhatsHappening covers storm damage and a packed night of Dodgers baseball and Monday Night Football. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (10/10): Gary reaches for headphones, Shannon hits skip, and neither wants to hear your conversation during a concert. From volume disputes with their spouses to the chatterbox behind them at a show, Gary and Shannon unpack their musical pet peeves. Then, #TrueCrimeTuesday turns to a couple accused of conspiracy to commit child abuse in a surrogacy scandal, raising questions about legal protections and accountability. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (10/10): Amazon has a profile of you, and you might not appreciate the assessment. Gary and Shannon explore creepy shopping assumptions, a naked neighborhood wanderer in Milwaukee and an Indian delivery driver’s questionable approach to “recycling.” Plus, a conversation about political authenticity, immigrant family stories and stolen valor: where does telling your story cross into pretending to be someone you’re not? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

WEEKEND FIX - (10/10): Protecting your peace or avoiding a hard conversation? Gary and Shannon tackle family estrangement, therapists recommending distance and TikTok’s role in validating the decision to go “no contact.” A story about a grandfather cut off by his grandchild brings the discussion home: when are boundaries necessary, and when does walking away leave the real problems unresolved? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (10/09): Gary and Shannon remember NFL legend Mike Ditka, including his unforgettable gamble on Ricky Williams. Nithya Raman cancels her interview, and the hosts lay down the rules: tough questions, no editorial control, and an invitation that still stands. Plus, mark your calendar for October 22 at BJ’s in Westlake Village! Isaias threatens the Gulf Coast, Rachel brings rain and coastal flooding concerns to SoCal, and severe turbulence sends eight Avianca passengers to the hospital. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (10/09): Nithya Raman blames the edit for her deleted “fascist liars” video, but still wants LAPD Chief Jim McDonnell out. Gary and Shannon check whether rain could stall the wildlife crossing’s opening, then turn Jason Nathanson’s new tattoo into a listener guessing game, with a detour into Shannon’s harassment training. Plus, Heather Brooker talks Ted Lasso’s season finale, Aaron Sorkin’s The Social Reckoning, a mother-heavy movie lineup and Dolly Parton’s charitable return to theaters in 9 to 5. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (10/09): An Iowa teacher offers extra credit for GoFundMe donations, and a fake substitute makes her way into a Milwaukee classroom. Gary and Shannon unpack both stories in #NNNYNTK, along with Creed’s takeover of your feed and a cat returning home after 10 years. Plus, #Fantasy4Play picks for Browns–Jets, Bears–Packers, Ravens–Falcons and Raiders–Patriots, while #WhatsHappening covers storm updates, PepsiCo price hikes and bargain California wine. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (10/08): AM570’s Tim Cates joins Gary and Shannon as the Dodgers eliminate Atlanta, Tyler Mahle drops a televised F-bomb and LA moves eight wins from a three-peat. Christa Pike’s lawyers say she’s walking and angry after her failed execution, while Gavin Newsom considers commuting all 563 California death sentences. Plus, a Navy homecoming after 321 days, Shannon’s AC quits, and Southern California’s heat gives way as hurricane evacuations begin along the Gulf Coast. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (10/08): Gary and Shannon break down California’s new laws affecting your job, guns and drink order, then explore Hollywood’s fascination with Silicon Valley villains. Gary finds a dog-sleep study to defend his crate policy, while Valley brothel managers receive probation and alleged organizers remain uncharged. Plus, #TerrorInTheSkies covers contact tracing after an Ebola patient’s commercial flight to Nairobi and the growing annoyance of sitting next to someone’s airborne Zoom meeting. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (10/08): Jeff Bezos predicts AI could deliver a three-day workweek, while Bernie Sanders wants to hit pause on advanced AI development. Gary and Shannon debate the promises and risks, then tackle the unanswered text: why people put off replying, how silence strains relationships and why waiting for the perfect response can make things worse. Plus, the latest headlines in #WhatsHappening and Washington developments in #SwampWatch. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (10/07): Gary and Shannon celebrate Elmer’s birthday, get emotional over Kono’s departure and question bringing your parents to a job interview. Ahead of tomorrow’s interview, they examine Nithya Raman’s deleted “fascist liars” video and her pledge to replace the LAPD chief she voted to confirm. Plus, Shannon redirects the Instagram outrage, and #TerrorInTheSkies brings an LAX collision, a passenger accused of masturbating midflight and rising holiday airfares. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (10/07): Gary and Shannon break down Steve Hilton’s town hall, his disagreements with Trump and his challenge to Xavier Becerra’s “son of immigrants” story. They examine California’s crackdown on Montana shell companies and why younger Angelenos are trading LA for more affordable cities. Then, Amazon’s “About You” feature gets uncomfortably personal about shoppers’ bodies, friendships and habits, and Shannon pulls up her own profile live. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (10/07): Gary and Shannon examine the fallout from Tennessee’s failed execution attempt, the prison chief’s resignation and mounting legal challenges. #SwampWatch brings Ken Paxton’s campaign complications as his estranged wife urges voters to back the ticket while accusing him of adultery, plus predictions of a Democratic wave. Then, a detour into Jewish food and what was served at the Last Supper. Also, the third anniversary of the October 7 terrorist attacks and Dodgers playoff baseball. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (10/06): Gary and Shannon discuss Mayor Karen Bass’s request for a sit-down and why they won’t agree to pre-set conditions: “It’s not going to be comfortable in this room.” They examine a Russian lab worker’s death, what officials know about plague and what remains unconfirmed, along with Trump’s concern. Plus, Trump’s poll numbers, his comments about Los Angeles and San Diego, and another round of extreme heat. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (10/06): Gary and Shannon react to Trump’s remarks about Iran taking out Los Angeles and San Diego, and the response from California leaders. They debate Nithya Raman’s proposals for the LAPD and discuss reports contrasting her response to an ICE protest with Mayor Karen Bass’s. Plus, another homelessness proposal, Santa Monica’s struggle to revive downtown, and a study on teens and compulsive short-video viewing. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (10/06): Gary and Shannon discuss the arrest of Arcadia parents on child abuse conspiracy charges in a case involving a surrogacy home, and what charges could apply to alleged forced surrogacy. Then, Christa Pike survives a failed execution as Tennessee pauses executions and her attorney seeks to commute her sentence; Blackburn calls to “bring back the electric chair.” Plus, Trump’s Iran remarks, the Paramount-Skydance-WBD merger, the Russian plague investigation, extreme heat and El Niño, Falcons-Saints and Dodgers playoff baseball. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (10/05): Gary and Shannon react to the Chargers’ 0–4 start, the Dodgers’ Game 2 loss and Walmart’s AI-powered pricing. They debate whether Olivia Dean’s song is homage or a rip-off, examine an unexplained death at a Russian anti-plague lab and an Irvine realtor accused of spying for Beijing, and ask why some college freshmen are already heading home. Plus, the death of former House Speaker Dennis Hastert. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (10/05): Gary and Shannon discuss Tom Cruise’s disappointing box office opening, the heat’s expected cooldown and evacuations near the Bouquet Fire. They unpack Waymo’s rising crash totals alongside its lower injury-crash rate per mile, then debate whether bacon deserves its bad reputation and look at new research on why fat cells may contribute to weight regain. Plus, Heather Brooker reports live from Hollywood Burbank Airport for a first look inside its new terminal. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (10/05): Tom Brady’s stats folder accidentally holds down a talk-back button for seven minutes, and Shannon has a few words about KFI’s own technical problems: “It’s not about the milk.” Gary and Shannon also track the midterm political shake-up, a kayaker bitten while releasing a shark, and bears moving into foothill neighborhoods. Plus, extreme heat, MetroLink fare hikes and a SoCal realtor accused of spying for China. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (10/03): Gary and Shannon get into the Atlanta Zoo’s new pandas, Ping Ping and Fu Shuang, and the unusual tactics zoos use to get pandas to mate. Then: Madonna’s iconic VMA performance, social media’s effect on relationships, and whether our pursuit of convenience is costing us community. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (10/03): Gary and Shannon discuss why workout intensity may matter more than duration, plus the mental hurdles that can make running tough. Then they revisit the 1982 Tylenol murders and a reported new lead involving Idaho man Dr. Matthew Francis Bukowski. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

WEEKEND FIX (10/03) - Gary & Shannon’s spouses have birthdays just three days apart—but remembering the date is only the beginning. A scavenger hunt gift idea sends them down memory lane, trading stories about their shared history, overlapping circles and the little details that make a gift personal. Plus, the case for keeping notes when your spouse drops a hint instead of trusting yourself to remember it months later. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (10/02) - Gary & Shannon take the show to Huntington Beach for the Pacific Airshow! First up: football, Aaron Rodgers showing his age, and Lyon Air Museum president Mark Foster on the stories behind the historic planes. Then Gary revisits his 2018 flight with the Thunderbirds, a Thanksgiving son-in-law story resurfaces, and the excitement builds along the beach. Check out Gary’s flight footage on Instagram @GaryAndShannon and the full video on their YouTube! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (10/02) - Fighter jets overhead, ramen-covered corn dogs on the menu. Gary & Shannon continue live from the Pacific Airshow in Huntington Beach with Captain Hannah Durbin, who takes them behind the scenes of the Air Force Thunderbirds. From the demanding training schedule to team traditions and superstitions, she explains what goes into those jaw-dropping performances. Plus, Gary & Shannon sample the airshow food—and that is its own adventure. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (10/02) - Gary & Shannon wrap up the live broadcast from Huntington Beach with Pacific Airshow CEO Kevin Elliott, talking about the event and its place in the community. Then the conversation takes a turn with an abbreviated News Nuggets: a Florida Waffle House flashing story and a fight over a ceramic bowl that reportedly escalated to gunfire. Plus some NFL Fantasy4Play, play along on X or IG @GaryAndShannon. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (10/01) - Hilton goes after Becerra. Becerra goes after Trump. And the betting market barely budges. Gary & Shannon unpack California’s governor debate and wonder whether undecided voters are even watching. Plus, the case for a starter condo, fan mail gives Gary a shot at a Taylor Swift guitar, and Tennessee’s failed execution of Christa Pike leaves the victim’s mother furious and the state facing serious questions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (10/01) - Gary & Shannon cover the deadly medical helicopter crash off Catalina and the search for a missing person, then dig into Bass vs. Raman and the dispute over influencer payments. Our favorite guest of the week, Heather Brooker joins for a bruising Hollywood Reporter review of Tom Cruise’s Digger, and a game testing the hosts’ Cruise knowledge. Plus, what’s worth watching: Forgotten Island, Florence Pugh’s dark turn in East of Eden, and Anne Hathaway’s Colleen Hoover thriller Verity. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (10/01) - Shannon reviews iHeart’s new fourth-floor bathroom—and apparently, using the toilet now counts as a workout. Gary & Shannon also cover the latest on the Israel-bound flight, a whale encounter that leaves four sailors fighting for survival, and Gary’s own dolphin run-in. Plus, Washington headlines in #SwampWatch and KIIS-FM’s EJ joins the show for a preview of Jingle Ball 2026. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (09/30) - Shannon considers sneaking a plumber into the house to fix her husband’s toilet repair—and protect his pride—all in pursuit of what Gary calls “urination comforts.” Then, passengers describe fighting back during a suspected cockpit attack on an Israel-bound flight, and one survivor’s bloodied message to his family stops us in our tracks. Plus, the jury rejects Caleb Flynn’s break-in story and convicts him of murdering his wife, Ashley, while former inmates allege Diddy’s prison life includes personal staff, massages and contraband. Doing time...with room service? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (09/30) - Shannon has questions about Gary’s palate—and where he farts—but don’t put him in a box! Gary & Shannon unpack the Bass–Raman divide over Gaza and preview tonight’s governor’s debate: can Steve Hilton break through, or will California’s Democratic advantage carry Xavier Becerra? Shannon has some choice words about the front-runner. Then, Gary breaks out a British accent for Wellness Wednesday’s 14-food list, with coffee, cheese and chocolate making the cut, plus an experimental weight-loss drug update. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (09/30) - A drunken airline passenger tries to recruit a child to buy him alcohol, then locks himself in the bathroom with a bottle of wine—and Gary supplies the voice for this impromptu #TerrorInTheSkies. Gary & Shannon also follow conflicting reports about the Dubai-to-Israel flight incident, discuss TSA’s reported chair crackdown and question Trump’s proposed AI-to-“Super Intelligence” rebrand. Doesn’t Sports Illustrated already have dibs on SI? Finally, we missed Fat Bear Week, apparently got in trouble for Fat Marmot coverage, and Shannon’s neighborhood bear is getting a little too comfortable looking into her house. Plus, meet champion Backpack and the story behind his name. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (09/29) - Three years without playing a game, and suddenly he’s the guy his team needs. Gary & Shannon discuss a 38-year-old quarterback’s unlikely comeback, then turn to Lindsay Clancy’s return to court and her defense’s push to have the case dismissed. Plus, can America.gov use AI to untangle federal bureaucracy? And a look at men who cheat during pregnancy or after childbirth—because apparently becoming a father wasn’t enough responsibility to handle. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (09/29) - Could a newly identified John Doe help unlock the Tylenol murders? Gary & Shannon explore the possible connection, then tackle homelessness spending and why more shelter beds don’t necessarily mean a lasting solution. Karen Bass and Nithya Raman prepare to face questions about Israel, Gaza and local leadership at a mayoral forum. Plus, Heart of the Beast sparks a conversation about our bond with animals—and would your relationship survive someone reading your journal? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (09/29) - Seven victims, poisoned Tylenol and a mystery that changed America’s medicine cabinets. Gary & Shannon examine how identifying a man who died from cyanide poisoning in Idaho has opened a possible new lead in the 1982 Tylenol murders—and what investigators still need to establish before connecting him to the killings. Plus, MLB playoff talk, the latest weather developments and Jack Smith’s defense of the Trump investigation spark a discussion about government accountability. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (09/28) - The gang’s back together! Gary returns with stories from a Texas ranch—including fresh eggs, exotic animals and a visit to Joe Rogan’s comedy club—while Shannon returns from Buffalo with a growing list of Chargers-related disappointments. Amy King joins to talk about going Over the Edge for Union Rescue Mission, plus storm trouble on both coasts and the terror investigation near RAF Fairford. In #TerrorInTheSkies, a smoky Delta cabin forces an unexpected stop in Portugal, listeners guess Gary’s airport celebrity sighting, and his wife helps handle a very messy landing. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (09/28) - Shannon’s Chargers misery follows her home from Buffalo, but Gary has something to look forward to: Friday’s live broadcast from the Pacific Airshow in Huntington Beach! Starship reaches orbit before cutting its mission short, and LA28’s financial transparency raises questions about what taxpayers could owe. Shannon weighs Olympic excitement against traffic, crowds and ticket prices—then decides we’ve had enough bad news. Bring on the pandas! Panda diplomacy, a surprisingly short fertility window and some very ambitious mating habits take over the rest of the hour. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (09/28) - #WhatsHappening covers storm trouble, the L.A. mayor’s race, Starship and a wild sports weekend, while Shannon compares Buffalo’s football devotion with life in L.A. In #SwampWatch, Gary shares an attempted connection with a fellow traveler before the latest shakeup at the FBI. Then: are delivery apps, self-checkout and endless entertainment making life easier—and lonelier? Plus, minivans are making a comeback. Gary remembers his fondly, Shannon thinks Chris Merrill belongs behind the wheel of one, and practicality goes head-to-head with ego. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Gary and Shannon rewind to one of our most in-demand social clips (back with FRESH CONTENT next week!) - They dive into the surprising trend of high school sweethearts reconnecting decades later, and why the fantasy often doesn't match reality. They explore how social media has erased the mystery of the past, why we tend to assume our classmates had life all figured out, and what really happens after those long-awaited reunions. Plus, they discuss whether we're actually all that different from the people we were growing up, or if adulthood just makes us better at hiding it. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (09/24) - Shannon kicks off the show solo as President Trump welcomes Chinese President Xi Jinping for high-stakes talks, questioning the contrast between the administration’s warnings about communism and the red-carpet treatment in Washington. Then, California’s governor’s race looks increasingly lopsided in the betting markets, and Shannon asks why everything from airline seats to streaming services now seems to come with another fee after you’ve already paid. Plus, #TerrorInTheSkies after a United passenger says she was sent back to sit beside a man she had reported for sexual misconduct whilst starring at her (allegedly)! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (09/24) -Shannon talks with California Post reporter Jamie Paige about the L.A. mayor’s race, Mayor Karen Bass’ record on homelessness and the huge bloc of voters who remain undecided. Then, as weight-loss drugs reshape America, lawsuits raise questions about a rare vision condition linked to semaglutide — and apparently getting skinny may come with some fine print. Plus, Shannon wonders how much of our lives our devices are already recording as Meta pushes further into AI glasses, and POLITICO’s Tyler Katzenberger joins to explain why Americans across the political spectrum increasingly want AI development slowed down. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (09/24) -Shannon hits #WhatsHappening with President Trump’s meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping, a September nor’easter threatening the East Coast and another delay for the LAX People Mover. Then former NFL executive and agent Andrew Brandt joins to break down NFL contracts, guaranteed money and negotiating power, while sharing what makes Lambeau Field unlike anywhere else in sports. Plus, Chris Merrill joins Shannon for this week’s #Fantasy4Play. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (09/23) - Shannon and Andy Riesmeyer kick things off with El Niño, Tropical Storm Odalys and a pronunciation fight with Amy King that somehow ends with Andy calling KTLA meteorologist Henry DiCarlo live on the air. Then they turn to the L.A. mayor’s race, as a new poll puts Nithya Raman ahead of Mayor Karen Bass with a large share of voters still undecided, and discuss Raman’s DSA ties, Bass’ record and what the race could signal about the Democratic Party’s direction. Plus, Andy’s Mattel past and his latest attempt at writing a country song. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (09/23) -Shannon and Andy dig into the Caleb Flynn murder trial, including his mother-in-law’s testimony about his daughters’ behavior after a private walk with their father, the prosecution’s allegations about a staged crime scene and the defense argument that Flynn may not have been a perfect husband, but that doesn’t make him a murderer. Then, the New York Times’ countdown of the 100 best TV shows since 2000 continues with picks including Chappelle’s Show, Stranger Things, Parks and Recreation, Peaky Blinders and Hacks. Plus, an update on the increasingly pointless but entertaining feud between Henri DiCarlo and the Gary & Shannon Show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (09/23) -Shannon and Andy hit #WhatsHappening before #SwampWatch turns to the White House press-access fight and President Trump’s upcoming meetings with Chinese President Xi Jinping, with trade, AI, Taiwan and Iran among the issues surrounding the visit. CNN, MS NOW and Politico are asking a federal judge to restore their White House access after the administration defended the restrictions as a “privilege” rather than a right. Plus, Justin Bieber surprises MacArthur Park with an impromptu performance, Shannon insists she can talk her way through “The Gambler” and “The Devil Went Down to Georgia,” and California is giving some older residents a new way out of jury duty. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (09/22) -Shannon and Andy recap another chaotic NFL weekend after the Rams hand Elmer’s Giants a 28–6 loss and Shannon wonders why fans act like she personally took the field for the Chargers. Then they break down President Trump’s U.N. address, where he defended his foreign-policy record and issued new warnings to Iran. Plus, Amy King joins to preview her Over the Edge fundraiser for Union Rescue Mission, San Diego International Airport warns of major delays, and Category 5 Polo brings another round of humidity, surf and possible rain into Southern California. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 2 (09/22) - Shannon and Andy meet the tech executive whose very specific husband checklist has produced five potential matches, then get into L.A.’s Olympic transit bill and the Paramount–Warner settlement. Plus, Gavin Newsom appoints former Rep. Katie Porter to the California Community Colleges Board of Governors before LAFD Captain John Marasco and Inspector Derwin Pitts bring the firehouse food, talk about the lifelong bond among firefighters and preview Saturday’s Salute to Firefighters Festival benefiting the Widows, Orphans & Disabled Firefighter’s Fund. The festival features a cook-off with more than 15 LAFD firehouses competing for bragging rights. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 3 (09/22) - Shannon and Andy hit #WhatsHappening with the latest on Tropical Storm Polo, the NFL’s growing injury list and other headlines before #SwampWatch turns to President Trump’s U.N. address, his latest meeting with New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani and new polling on potential 2028 candidates. Trump warned Iran of further military action if a peace agreement isn’t reached, while his meeting with Mamdani focused in part on housing and affordability despite their continuing policy differences. Then #TrueCrimeTuesday goes inside the disturbing Philadelphia investigation involving more than a million files and seven missing women, before looking back at the family’s previous home and a 2009 drug-and-weapons case. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

HOUR 1 (09/21) - Shannon welcomes Andy Riesmeyer back and tries to process the Chargers’ brutal 0–2 start, while Andy discovers that wearing Chargers gear now earns actual condolences. They hit the rest of a chaotic NFL Sunday before turning to CNN, MS NOW and Politico’s lawsuit challenging their White House access ban. Plus, Patrick Clancy’s 60 Minutes interview sparks a difficult conversation about grief, forgiveness, mental illness and whether his first major sit-down left even more questions behind. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.