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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pastor Josh Howerton on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Josh is the senior pastor of Lakepointe Church in Rockwall, Texas and hosts the Live Free podcast. FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE Website: https://built4morepod.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod Chapters 00:00 The Episode That Stopped His Workout 01:47 Five Revivals, Fifty Years Apart 06:56 How It Feels to Be an Overnight Success 09:45 The Church of 125 That Started All of This 12:04 Eight Months of Panic Attacks 17:01 Leaving a Church He Planned to Retire At 34:42 The Only Pastor COVID Was Good For 48:19 The Night the Internet Came for Him 50:15 So Tonight We Feast 1:26:56 Fear Is Not a Personality
Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pastor Josh Howerton on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Josh is the senior pastor of Lakepointe Church in Rockwall, Texas and hosts the Live Free podcast. FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE Website: https://built4morepod.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod Chapters 00:00 The Episode That Stopped His Workout 01:47 Five Revivals, Fifty Years Apart 06:56 How It Feels to Be an Overnight Success 09:45 The Church of 125 That Started All of This 12:04 Eight Months of Panic Attacks 17:01 Leaving a Church He Planned to Retire At 34:42 The Only Pastor COVID Was Good For 48:19 The Night the Internet Came for Him 50:15 So Tonight We Feast 1:26:56 Fear Is Not a Personality
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What If You’re Measuring Success All Wrong? - Josh Howerton, Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pastor Josh Howerton on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Josh is the senior pastor of Lakepointe Church in Rockwall, Texas and hosts the Live Free podcast. FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE Website: https://built4morepod.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod Chapters 00:00 The Episode That Stopped His Workout 01:47 Five Revivals, Fifty Years Apart 06:56 How It Feels to Be an Overnight Success 09:45 The Church of 125 That Started All of This 12:04 Eight Months of Panic Attacks 17:01 Leaving a Church He Planned to Retire At 34:42 The Only Pastor COVID Was Good For 48:19 The Night the Internet Came for Him 50:15 So Tonight We Feast 1:26:56 Fear Is Not a Personality
Answering Questions Most Christians Are Afraid to Ask - Tim Timberlake, Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pastor Tim Timberlake on this week’s episode of Built 4 More. Tim is the pastor of Celebration Church in Jacksonville, Florida, and cohosts the Street Preachers podcast with Phillip Anthony Mitchell. FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE: Website: https://built4morepod.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod Chapters: 00:00 Back Together Again 05:17 Two Pastors on the Same Team 23:13 Teaching What You Still Struggle With 27:15 Where to Start With a New Believer 30:26 Why You Never Feel Like Enough 40:42 Should Christian Families Do Halloween? 46:19 Can the Devil Hear Your Prayers? 56:57 Criticism Behind the Tour 1:05:12 When People Question Your Motives 1:17:37 Loving Your Wife Through a Diagnosis 1:25:40 What It Means to Be the Head of Your Home 1:32:19 When Every Sermon Feels Heavy
You Can't Fight the Devil in the Dark - Kevin Malone, Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Kevin Malone, former general manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers and now Senior Advisor on Human Trafficking at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. They talk about how Kevin went from an MLB general manager to what he is doing today, the online threats targeting teenagers, and the conversation every parent needs to have before the enemy gets there first.If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988.FOLLOW BUILT 4 MOREWebsite: https://built4morepod.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepodTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepodYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@built4morepodCHAPTERS00:00 A Baseball Lifer Walks In06:22 What the Climb Cost at Home21:55 Why He Didn't Retire to the Golf Course29:04 I Gave You Your Son Back34:01 The Online Threats Coming for Your Kids42:02 The Foster Care Crisis55:39 You Can't Fight the Devil in the Dark1:18:13 The Phone Stays Out of the…
Why So Many Christians Miss Their Calling - Shayne Boyle, Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Shayne Boyle, better known as Insane Shayne, on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Shayne has millions of followers from making videos catching marshmallows in his mouth, playing full tackle basketball with guys twice his size, being on America's Got Talent, touring with Dude Perfect, and now takes his crew to youth groups and churches across the country. Link to Robby Gallaty's Sermon: https://youtube.com/live/4naDIKriqnE FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE Website: https://built4morepod.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod Chapters 00:00 Meet Insane Shayne 00:38 From College Football to Catching Marshmallows 06:27 The Grape Tapes and a Million Views 08:38 Telling Your Dad You Want to Be a YouTuber 11:36 The Career Advice Dude Perfect Ignored 14:32 Choose Better Heroes for Your Kids 22:34 Shock Collar Free Throws and Other Bad Ideas 31:45 What Can I Do for…
What Changes When You Know God as Father - Charles Martin, Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with New York Times bestselling author Charles Martin on this week’s episode of Built 4 More. Charles walked on at Georgia Tech until a broken vertebra ended the football dream he shared with his dad. He waited hours to make the call. His dad’s answer: “If I leave right now, I can be there by supper.” Years later, Charles turned down a six-figure job to pursue writing, while his wife Christy stood with him through 86 rejection letters. He tells those stories, shares how he and Joby began writing books together, and talks about the question behind his new book, *The Reason for Jesus*: Do you know God as your Father? This episode is about what happens when your identity falls apart, what it costs to follow a calling, and why Jesus came to make the Father known. Preorder The Reason for Jesus: https://www.charlesmartinbooks.com/books/the-reason-for-jesus CHAPTERS 0:00 Meet Charles Martin 1:52 Walking on at Georgia Tech 7:15 The hit that ended the football dream…
Obedience Comes Before Confidence - Shane Winnings, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Shane Winnings, the CEO of Promise Keepers, on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Before he led a national men's ministry, Shane was an Army officer and jumpmaster, then a police officer in one of the most violent stretches of Washington State. He has been shot at in war, and the thing that scared him most was walking up to a stranger to talk about Jesus. This episode is about where that fear comes from, why it hits Christians who are brave everywhere else, and the simple rule that finally beat it. CHAPTERS (0:00) Army officer, cop, and now the man running Promise Keepers (2:18) The night on his bed and one sentence from God (5:23) Quitting the badge with a pregnant wife, funded in 19 days (8:05) Shot at in war, still scared of a stranger in a park (9:35) The stranger you're avoiding might have prayed last night (13:17) Joby's 14,000 foot jump with a team of Navy SEALs (19:47) Why reps kill fear in every arena (22:50) You cannot argue anyone into heaven…
Why You Don't Feel Close to God - Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedEvery week somebody asks where to get merch. The answer has always been you can't. That changes now. Built 4 More merch is officially coming. The first drop is a presale, open for one week. Everything is made to order, so we build exactly what you ask for and nothing else. The email list gets access before anyone else, SIGN UP HERE: https://built4morepod.com/store Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down and work through the questions you have been sending in, plus how the merch drop is going to run. FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE 🛒 Merch: https://built4morepod.com/ 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/ 👍 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod 🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@built4morepod Chapters: 2:09 The Big Announcement 4:30 Saturated Is Coming 10:14 Learning to Follow Jesus as a Grown Man 15:53 God's Will Is About Who You're Becoming 21:18 Six Baptisms on an Elk Hunt 23:42 Is Money the Root of All Evil? 37:52 Sin Less, Feel Worse…
What Christians Get Wrong About Spiritual Warfare - Joel Muddamalle, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Dr. Joel Muddamalle on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Joel is the Director of Theology and Research at Proverbs 31 Ministries, cohost of Therapy and Theology alongside Lysa TerKeurst, and author of The Unseen Battle. Before any of that, Joel was a Bible software salesman at the peak of his career, traveling 150,000 miles a year while his marriage quietly fell apart. His oldest son started hiding his travel bag because he knew dad would leave when it came out. Joel, Joby, and Denny talk about the reality of spiritual warfare and why the enemy's tactics are more subtle than most people expect. Joel breaks down the ancient pattern of temptation through what we see, what we desire, and what we take, and how that same pattern shows up today through addiction, pornography, AI, entertainment, and comfort. They get into what it means to give the enemy a foothold, what is actually discipling you and your kids, why feelings cannot be the authority over…
The Faith You Want Takes All of You - Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down to answer listener questions. If you have a question for a future episode, drop it in the comments. 👍 If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to Like, Subscribe, and turn on notifications so you never miss a new episode of Built 4 More. 🎙️ Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/built-4-more/id1797411058 🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/00qd9DnMZJCGPUQbcNJmH1?si=d683e01fdefb4329 FOLLOW BUILT 4 MORE: 🌐 Website: https://built4morepod.com/ 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/built4morepod/ 👍 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/built4morepod 🎵 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@built4morepod 🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@built4morepod Chapters: 02:17 – I'm Saved. Why Do I Still Feel Guilty? 08:49 – How to Find Your Spiritual Gift 12:39 – How to Build a Real Connection With God 17:44 – Who You Hang Around Matters 21:29 – What Full Surrender Actually Looks Like 26:16 – If You Won't Wake Up for It, You Don't Want It…
The Season You Want to Escape Has a Purpose - Brady Russell, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Super Bowl champion Brady Russell of the Seattle Seahawks. Brady grew up in church, led FCA in high school, and knew all the right answers. But looking back, he realized there was a major difference between knowing about Jesus and actually knowing Him. Brady walks through the seasons when God’s plan made little sense in the moment. At Colorado, he had every reason to leave, but while praying he felt God tell him to “be where your feet are.” What followed was one of the hardest seasons of his life, and Brady began wondering if he had heard God wrong. It was only later that he saw what God had been doing through him the entire time. Joby, Denny, and Brady talk about trusting God when you cannot see the outcome, why obedience often comes before understanding, how to recognize God’s faithfulness in hindsight, and what it looks like to follow Jesus when the people around you do not. Brady shares why he prayed for a platform as a kid, only to discover that his…
The Evidence for Jesus is Undeniable - Jeremiah Johnston, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Dr. Jeremiah Johnston, New York Times bestselling author of The Jesus Discoveries, president of the Christian Thinkers Society, and one of the world's leading scholars on the resurrection of Jesus. He earned his PhD at Oxford studying the resurrection. Jeremiah did not just talk about the evidence. He put it on the table. The oldest fragment of the New Testament. A replica of the whip that took a third of Jesus's blood. A crown of thorns cut in Jerusalem the week before, from the same tree the Ark of the Covenant was built from. Coins of every man who tried to kill Jesus. And a real first century crucifixion nail, bent and rusted from use, that left Denny speechless. Then he walks through the physics of the Shroud of Turin: an image one fifth the width of a human hair, created by 34 billion watts of energy in a fraction of a billionth of a second, that science still cannot replicate. Joby, Denny, and Jeremiah talk about how we have 5,800 manuscripts of the…
The Enemy Doesn’t Care How He Hooks You - Edwin Martin, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Edwin Martin on this week’s episode of Built 4 More. At 20 years old, Edwin was hiding a four year gambling addiction that nearly cost him his life. He was borrowing money he couldn’t repay, carrying debts no one knew about, and placing bets from the church pew while claiming to follow Jesus. It ended with Edwin alone on his bathroom floor, ready to take his own life. He prayed one desperate prayer: “God, if You are real, reveal Yourself.” Ten seconds later, his best friend unexpectedly texted him three words: “I love you.” That text interrupted Edwin’s darkest moment, and the friend who sent it would eventually lead him to Christ. Five years later, Edwin is an endurance athlete using every mile to point people toward hope. He recently ran 133.2 miles on a treadmill for 24 hours straight at a 10:49 minute per mile pace to raise money for suicide prevention. Months earlier, he ran across the entire state of South Carolina to support families battling cancer.…
You Can’t Outrun What You Won’t Face - Liam Coen, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Liam Coen on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Liam was a four-year starting quarterback at UMass where he still holds multiple school passing records. He spent nearly a decade grinding through small Northeast programs Brown, Rhode Island, and Maine, writing handwritten letters and knocking on every NFL door he could find, until one relationship finally got him in with Sean McVay and the Rams. A few years later he's the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and in year one he took a franchise that had been going nowhere and led it to 13 wins and a division championship. But long before any of that, Liam walked through the hardest thing of his life. He opens up about losing his mother, Beth after a four year battle with Lyme disease while he was in college and his dad was in the hospital. He talks honestly about burying that grief for a decade, the way it eventually crept up and started to eat at him, the mental health…
You Can't Be in Control and at Peace - Tony Boselli, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pro Football Hall of Famer Tony Boselli on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Tony was one of the most dominant left tackles to ever play the game. The first draft pick in Jacksonville Jaguars history, the best in the world at what he did. Then, at thirty years old and at the top of his game, a shoulder injury ended all of it. In an instant, the one thing he was great at was gone, and Tony was left away from everyone he knew, depressed, angry at God, and asking the question that leveled him: who am I without football? Tony shares what those years actually did to him. Being told his shoulder would never work again at the peak of his career. Lying in bed as a grown man wondering where God's protection went. The morning he realized four little kids and a wife were watching to see what kind of man he would be. And the thought that finally broke it open, if God had told him at eighteen that he would get USC, the NFL, a Hall of Fame career, and then have it all…
The Life You’re Chasing Will Never Be Enough - Steve Weatherford, Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Super Bowl champion and former NFL punter Steve Weatherford on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Steve spent ten years in the NFL, won a Super Bowl, made the cover of Men's Health, and became known as the fittest man in professional football. From the outside, he had everything. On the inside, he was addicted to pain pills, trapped in pornography, and standing at a window at two in the morning after the biggest win of his life wondering why he felt nothing at all. Steve shares the story he rarely tells. Being cut in a locker room at twenty five years old and having to ask the groundskeeper for a ride. Hearing a street preacher through a hotel window seventeen floors up saying the exact words he needed. Being abused as a child by a Christian teacher and spending the next twenty four years trying to prove he was enough. And the night in a circus tent in the desert when everything finally broke open. Joby, Denny, and Steve talk about identity, addiction,…
Hollywood Strengthened My Calling - Jim Klock, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with actor, filmmaker, and former police officer Jim Klock on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Before Jim ever stepped onto a Hollywood set, he spent a decade serving as a police officer and undercover narcotics detective. He loved the job, but God began calling him somewhere he never expected. What followed was a journey of faith that took him from the streets of Virginia to some of the biggest productions in Hollywood. Jim shares how a late-night security shift led him to Christ, why he walked away from a career he loved, and how God opened doors that eventually led him to work alongside some of the biggest names in the film industry. But more than anything, this conversation is about learning to trust God's calling, choosing humility over recognition, and using every opportunity to encourage the people around you. Joby, Denny, and Jim discuss the difference between passion and purpose, what it's really like to be a Christian in Hollywood, the danger of…
I Owe It To The Fallen To Live Well - John Wayne Walding, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Green Beret John Wayne Walding on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Born on the Fourth of July and named after the Western legend, John Wayne Walding lost his right leg in the Battle of Shok Valley, one of the most intense firefights since Vietnam. He tied it off with a tourniquet and kept fighting for hours until every one of his brothers made it off the mountain alive. But the war was only the beginning. John woke up the next morning with one leg and a choice: be a victim or be a victor. He chose to never quit. He ran the Boston Marathon on a hand cycle, became the first amputee to requalify as a Green Beret sniper, got 14 years sober, and surrendered his life to Christ. In this conversation he shares the warrior mindset that carried him off that mountain and now drives his faith, and the conviction he lives by every single day: I owe it to the fallen to live well. This is a raw and powerful conversation about courage, identity, and what it actually…
Your Sin Isn't Disqualifying You, It's Refining You - Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedThis week on Built 4 More, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down alone. Just the two of them answering listener questions. They open on what may be the most common question in the inbox. What do you do after baptism when you find yourself back in the same sin you thought you left behind. Joby walks through the difference between conviction and condemnation, the three tenses of salvation, and why the instinct to clean yourself up before coming back to God is the exact opposite of what God actually wants from you. The conversation moves through some of the heaviest questions you have asked. Discerning God's calling on your life versus your own ambition. Carrying the burden of leading a family when the world feels heavier than it used to. Supporting a husband struggling with his identity. Loving a family member fighting suicidal thoughts. Raising an athlete without putting a weight on them they were never meant to carry. Talking to the friend who says they want to believe but cannot get there. What it…
I Stopped Asking Why - Josh Turner, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Josh Turner on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Josh is a pastor, the founder of the 10:10 Project, and the father of Riley, a 19-year-old with a rare genetic disorder who has had 33 surgeries, sleeps on a ventilator, and just graduated high school. When Riley was born, three doctors walked into the hospital room and told Josh and his wife Becca she would live a year and they would have to decide when to let her go. Riley is now 19, preaches across the country, and one day told her dad to stop praying for her healing because God made her this way on purpose. In this conversation, Josh opens up about walking through suffering publicly, why he stopped asking God why, what NT Wright told him that changed everything, and the morning he lost a friend in ministry that led him to start the 10:10 Project. Joby and Denny dig into burnout, why 42 percent of pastors want to leave the ministry, the danger of success, and what it actually looks like to build rhythms…
The Algorithm Is Not Your Pastor - Ruslan KD, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Ruslan KD on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Ruslan came to America as an Armenian refugee, found Jesus in Southern California, and built one of the most recognizable voices covering Christian content. He started as a rapper, became a commentator, wrote a book on godly ambition, and now hosts the Bless God conference. This conversation is about what happens when the algorithm starts doing the job the local church was meant to do. Ruslan gets honest about his own turn away from the tear down content that built his platform, why the stuff that goes viral is often the worst thing for your soul, and why nobody actually gets discipled through a screen. From there the three of them dig into godly ambition versus selfish ambition, why contentment is the launchpad and not the finish line, what it looks like to love God with your body and not just your mind, and how wisdom usually shows up as restraint when the whole culture is begging you to react. It is one…
God Might Call You to Walk Away - Drew Parker, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Drew Parker on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Drew Parker is one of the most successful songwriters in country music. He wrote Homemade for Jake Owen, Stay Country or Die Trying for Blake Shelton, and Doing This for Luke Combs, a song that earned a Grammy nomination for Best Country Song. Four number one songs. Stadium tours. The Grand Ole Opry. A weekend on stage with Willie Nelson. By every measure, he had made it. But Drew had been a believer his whole life, and at the very top of his career he could not shake the feeling that something was missing. He had chased the dream all the way from a small town in Georgia to Nashville, and it still was not enough. So he prayed and asked God to make it clear what he was supposed to do next. Days later his manager called him shaking. A skeptic who had never had a kind word for faith. He said he had been waking up in the middle of the night hearing that Drew was supposed to sing songs about Jesus. Drew walked…
Your Faith Isn't Failing, It's Forming - Matt Chandler, Joby Martin, Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Matt Chandler on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Matt is the lead pastor of The Village Church in Texas and has spent more than two decades as one of the most listened to pastors in the country. Most of us were sold a version of faith that goes straight up and to the right. Follow Jesus, and life gets cleaner, easier, better. Matt's new book Becoming Like Jesus tells the truth instead. The Christian life is a coil of highs and lows, and every low is still moving you forward. The seasons that feel like failure are usually the seasons God is using to form you. In this conversation, Joby, Denny, and Matt get into why you sin less and feel worse the longer you walk with Jesus, why we run from God when we should be running to Him, how lesser loves quietly steal our hunger for the things that matter, and why isolation is one of the enemy's most effective weapons against men. Matt also opens up about his brain cancer diagnosis and what suffering taught him…
You Can't Worship Comfort and Follow Jesus - Tim Timberlake, Joby Martin, Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pastor Tim Timberlake on this week’s episode of Built 4 More. Tim Timberlake is a pastor, communicator, and leader at Celebration Church in Jacksonville, Florida. In this conversation, Tim opens up about the pain that shaped his life, from walking through his father’s cancer diagnosis as a young boy, running from God, getting shot at 16 years old, and eventually having a dream that changed the direction of his life forever. Tim talks about what it means to suffer well, how pain can build humility, character, and godly integrity, and why the fruit God produces through suffering is not just for you, but for the people around you. The conversation also goes deep on leadership, criticism, and what it looks like to keep your hands and heart clean when you are being attacked. Tim shares how he navigated one of the most painful church transitions imaginable, why he refused to clap back, and why he believes you cannot let pain, frustration, or public opinion speak…
Your Past Has a Purpose You Can't See Yet - Garrett Gross, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedIn this episode of Built 4 More, Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin sit down with Garrett Gross. Garrett is an ex MMA fighter, gym owner, father, and one of the most unlikely men to be doing what he's doing today.For 15 years, Garrett competed as a professional MMA fighter while losing a fight off the mat that had nothing to do with the sport. He tried to fix it, but kept falling. He started to wonder if this was just who he was.Then one morning everything changed. Not because of a program or a plan. Just a parking lot, a quiet moment, and a God who had been working in his life long before Garrett was ready to admit it.Three years later, Garrett is running an MMA gym in small town Illinois that's become an actual mission field. Men are showing up and encountering Christ. A weekly Bible study is forming the kind of community most churches struggle to build, and he's leveraging the way God wired him to reach people the church was never going to reach on its own.Whether you're in the middle of your own fight…
Marriage, Ministry, and Motherhood | Pastor Joby & Gretchen Martin and Denny & Angie Thompson
ListenedFor the first time, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson bring their wives into the studio. Gretchen Martin and Angie Thompson sit down to answer questions submitted by listeners on marriage, motherhood, ministry, and everything in between. Joby and Gretchen have been married 26 years. Denny and Angie have been married 28. Between them they've planted a church, built a quarterback training business, raised four kids, and walked through seasons that nothing about looked like the plan.In this episode, Gretchen gives the behind the scenes of building The Church of Eleven22 from the ground up. And Angie gives the behind the scenes of Denny building one of the premiere quarterback training businesses in the country.The conversation goes deep on what the Bible actually says about submission and respect. Why secrets are exhausting. What it looks like to pray out loud over your spouse. And the "do over" hack that changed the way Joby and Gretchen work through conflict.
The Man Behind NFL Red Zone - Scott Hanson, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedScott Hanson has one of the most recognizable jobs in American sports. As the host of NFL Red Zone, he speaks to more people on Sunday than almost anyone on the planet. More Americans will spend time watching NFL football this weekend than they will sitting in a church. Scott knows that better than anyone.But behind the highlight reels and the touchdown calls was a guy who had made his career his god and still could not shake the feeling that something was missing.In this episode, Scott sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson and opens up about hitting the lowest point of his life at 25 years old, when a broken relationship cost him everything he thought he had. His personal life. His professional life. All of it at once.What happened next started with a random trip to Blockbuster Video, a movie about Jesus, and a football coach in Springfield, Illinois who refused to be ashamed of the name of Jesus on a Friday night. Scott had no idea that coach's faithfulness was about to change his life…
What the Fittest Man on Earth Is Building Now - Rich Froning, Pastor Joby Martin, Denny Thompson
ListenedRich Froning is the most decorated athlete in CrossFit history. 4 individual titles. Multiple team championships. A legacy that the sport has never seen before and may never see again. But behind all of it was a guy who kept winning and kept wondering why it wasn't enough. In this episode, Rich sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson and opens up about what it actually felt like to be the best in the world. The obsession it took to get there. The emptiness that followed every gold medal. And the moment faith stopped being something he grew up around and became something he actually lived. Rich also shares the story of how he and his wife walked through years of unexplained infertility, how God used a pregnancy clinic in Cookville, Tennessee to bring them their first daughter, and how that one moment changed the entire direction of his life. All three of his kids are adopted. None of it was the plan. All of it was God. The conversation also goes deep on what Rich is building now. A men's…
Finding God After Escaping Iran - David Nasser, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with David Nasser on this week's episode of Built 4 More. David Nasser was born in Iran and lived through the 1979 Islamic Revolution as a child. His family escaped with nothing, eventually landing in small town Alabama as refugees during one of the most anti-Iranian moments in American history. He was bullied, outcasted, and had no plan, until a friend invited him to church from the passenger seat of a car at midnight. What happened next is one of the most remarkable stories of God's sovereignty you will ever hear. David opens up about what it actually looks like to grow up as the enemy in your own country and then become the enemy in your new one and how God was holding him through all of it without him knowing. The conversation also goes deep on what God is doing in Iran right now. The underground church there is the fastest growing church in the world, and David breaks down what that actually means, what it costs the people living it, and why this moment in…
I Nailed Jesus to the Cross - Tim Tebow, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Tim Tebow on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Tim Tebow is one of the most decorated college football players in history. Heisman Trophy winner, two national championships, first round NFL draft pick, and he has been one of the most publicly outspoken Christians in the history of American sports. Tim opens up about what it actually looks like to keep Christ on the throne when bitterness creeps in and your plans do not go the way you expected. The conversation also goes deep on the fight Tim has given his life to outside of football. Right now more than 50 million people are being trafficked globally and more than 400 million children will be exploited or sexually abused this year alone. Tim breaks down what the Renewed Hope Act is, why Congress needs to move faster, and what every single person listening can do right now to help. He also gets into how to protect your own children from threats most parents do not even know exist. Tim also walks through…
Why You Feel Stuck In Your Faith - Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedIn this episode of Built 4 More, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down for a powerful and unfiltered Q and A covering some of the most real questions people wrestle with in their faith and everyday life. From wondering if you are truly hearing God’s voice to feeling the pressure of parenting and questioning if you are getting it right, this conversation goes straight at the things many people think but do not always say out loud. Joby and Denny unpack what the Bible actually says about hearing from God, why it can feel confusing at times, and how faith is often less about waiting for a perfect answer and more about trusting God with your next step. They also dive into the weight many parents carry to raise their kids the right way and why your mistakes do not disqualify you. In fact, some of the most powerful lessons your kids will learn come from watching you own your failures, repent, and keep going. This episode also challenges the idea that you need to have everything figured out before you move…
Your Mindset Is Shaping Your Life - Jon Gordon, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with 7x New York Times bestselling author Jon Gordon on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Jon Gordon didn't set out to become a bestselling author. He set out to survive. After losing his job, taking a second mortgage on his home, and maxing out $20,000 in credit cards to open a Moe's Southwest Grill in Jacksonville, Florida, he was crumbling from the inside out. What followed was one of the most unlikely faith journeys you'll ever hear. A new ager and Buddhist meditator who cried out to God in desperation, saw a literal roadside sign that said "Jesus is the Answer," and had a Buddhist energy healer accidentally explain the gospel to him in a way that finally made everything click. Jon opens up about the season where he was failing as a husband and father and what happened when he finally surrendered that to Jesus. He talks about the walk of gratitude that started his transformation, how his faith completely rebuilt his marriage, his family, and his calling,…
Finding Your Identity Beyond Football — Devin Lloyd, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedIn this episode of Built 4 More, Devin Lloyd sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson for a powerful conversation about faith, identity, and purpose just hours after signing with the Carolina Panthers in NFL free agency. Devin shares what it was like navigating the emotional roller coaster of free agency, leaving the Jacksonville Jaguars after four seasons, and stepping into a new chapter of his career in the NFL. They discuss the pressure that comes with professional sports, the highs and lows of competing at the highest level, and how Devin learned to anchor his identity in Christ rather than in football or performance. The conversation dives into Devin’s journey from college football at University of Utah to becoming a first round NFL draft pick and one of the top linebackers in the league. Devin explains the mindset required to play linebacker in the NFL, the discipline and preparation that separate great players from good ones, and how film study, nutrition, consistency, and daily habits…
What To Do When God Feels Silent - Pastor Joby Martin, Denny Thompson & Joshua Broome
ListenedPastor Joby Martin, Denny Thompson, and Joshua Broome dive into a wide range of questions about faith, purpose, identity, and what it means to follow Jesus in real life. This conversation explores some of the deeper questions many people wrestle with in their spiritual journey. Topics include trusting God when the future feels unclear, navigating seasons where God feels silent, and learning how to make wise decisions when you do not feel certain about the next step. The episode also looks at the role of faith in everyday life and how believers can continue growing spiritually through different seasons. The discussion also touches on discipleship, relationships, leadership, and the importance of surrounding yourself with people who help strengthen your walk with Christ. It explores how identity in Jesus shapes the way we live, the way we make decisions, and the way we pursue purpose. Throughout the episode, the conversation centers on practical Christian living and how faith influences areas like calling,…
Your Sin Doesn’t Define You - Joshua Broome, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedPastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Joshua Broome for a conversation about forgiveness identity and what it actually means to be free from your past. Joshua shares how growing up without a relationship with his father led him on a lifelong pursuit of affirmation acceptance and approval. That pursuit slowly shaped the decisions he made and the direction his life took as he chased performance success and validation in an effort to feel like he was enough. Over time what began as a search for identity turned into a life defined by shame as the things he had done became the lens through which he saw himself. Together they talk about how shame convinces us that what we have done is who we are and how that belief keeps us stuck in cycles of striving condemnation and isolation. This episode explores why so many people struggle to believe they are actually forgiven even after hearing the gospel and how condemnation can continue to shape our identity long after our sin has been paid for. Pastor Joby…
Your Calling Is Closer Than You Think – Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedIn this episode of the Built 4 More Podcast, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson answer one of the most common questions we receive: How do you know if you are living in God’s calling? And what if your job does not feel “spiritual” at all? From welders to pastors, quarterback trainers, and business owners, this conversation dives into the truth that your calling is not reserved for a stage. It is lived out in the everyday work God has entrusted to you. Pastor Joby explains why chasing “passion” can actually be misleading, how the skills God has given you are meant to be stewarded for His glory, and why doing excellent work in any field can be sacred when it is done unto the Lord. Whether you are struggling with identity in your job, feeling discontent in your current season, or wondering if there is something more you are meant to do, this episode offers clarity on the difference between Godly ambition and selfish ambition and how to move forward in obedience without abandoning responsibility. They also…
Faith That Fights On - Jake Olson, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedAt 12 years old, Jake Olson woke up from surgery knowing he would never see again. After battling cancer for most of his childhood, doctors had run out of options. Removing his remaining eye was the only way to save his life. In an instant, everything changed. He went from being a normal middle school kid who loved sports to learning how to read Braille, relearn how to socialize, and figure out how to live in a world he could no longer see. But what happened next is what makes his story unforgettable. Jake made a decision in that moment that most people never make he refused to become a victim of his circumstances. Instead of letting blindness take the life he loved from him, he chose to fight for it. After losing his sight, Jake made a promise to himself that blindness wasn’t going to rob him of the things he loved. Years later, that promise would lead him back onto the football field, first as a high school player, and eventually as a walk-on long snapper at USC. Despite being completely blind, Jake earned…
When Suffering Becomes Calling – Dylan Mandell, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedIn this episode of Built 4 More, Dylan Mandell joins Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson for a powerful and hope filled conversation about unwavering faith and a life fully surrendered to God. Dylan faced cancer four times, but his story is not one of doubt or drifting faith. It is a testimony of a young man whose confidence in God only deepened through suffering. Pain did not cause him to question God’s goodness. It revealed it. Each battle stripped away self reliance and strengthened his trust in God. This episode explores what it looks like to live with unshakable hope, to believe God’s promises without needing clarity, and to walk forward knowing that purpose is often formed through hardship. They talk about identity in Christ, the power of surrender, and why suffering does not stop God’s plan but often sharpens it. This is an encouraging and faith filled reminder that God is present in every trial, that endurance produces strength, and that a life anchored in Christ can stand firm no matter how many…
Why Growth Requires Accountability - Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedDenny and Joby sit down for a raw Q&A on faith, work, leadership, and what it actually looks like to follow Jesus when life is demanding and you keep falling short. They talk about calling and career, why failure doesn’t disqualify you, and why repentance and responsibility are non-negotiable for growth. They go straight at leadership, coaching, fatherhood, influence, and integrity, why competence matters, why serving people beats using them, and why you can’t lead anyone where you’re not willing to go yourself. They address sin, scars, discipline, culture, politics, and discernment with clarity and conviction, calling men to stop drifting, stop blaming, and start owning their lives. This episode is about daily obedience, choosing the harder path, being present where your feet are, and trusting God with the results. If you’re frustrated with yourself but still hungry to grow, this conversation will hit home.
Becoming the Man You’re Called to Be - Ty Kelly, Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedTy Kelly joins Built 4 More for a real conversation about faith, family, identity, and what it looks like to lead when life gets heavy. Ty is a Jacksonville local who went from being a baseball phenom where the game became his identity, to building a massive social media platform by making people laugh, and then learning the hard way that attention can’t be the thing that drives you. He opens up about marrying his high school sweetheart, raising three kids, and how God used parenting to make grace real to him, not performance based religion, but a deeper understanding of what it means to be loved by the Father.Ty also shares the most difficult season of their marriage when his wife Haley faced major preventative surgeries due to a genetic cancer risk, and what it required of him as a husband, a dad, and a man who finally had to admit he could not do it on his own. The episode gets into the pressure of social media, the desire to be liked, the reality of being attacked online, and how those moments exposed…
Trusting God When Life Does Not Make Sense - Lysa TerKeurst with Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedIn this episode of Built 4 More, Lysa TerKeurst sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson for a raw and honest conversation about pain, betrayal, faith, and trusting God when life does not turn out the way you planned. Lysa opens up about walking through deep personal adversity, seasons of heartbreak, and the tension of loving God while wrestling with unanswered questions. This is not surface level encouragement. It is about what faith really looks like when disappointment hits close to home. The conversation dives into how to keep your heart soft when you have every reason to shut down, how to lead yourself through grief without letting bitterness take root, and why healing often takes longer than we want it to. Lysa shares hard earned wisdom on boundaries, obedience, forgiveness, and what it means to stay anchored in truth when emotions are loud and circumstances feel overwhelming. Together, they unpack how adversity exposes what we truly believe about God, how to walk through pain without…
Jesus and Your Mental Health - Rebecca Maxwell, Pastor Joby Martin, and Denny Thompson
ListenedIn this episode, we sit down with Rebecca Maxwell for a powerful conversation on Jesus and mental health and why real growth requires both faith and intentional healing. Rebecca shares what led her into ministry and family therapy, how God shaped her calling, and the role she played in building The Church of Eleven22 Kids Ministry. We talk about why Christian therapy, rooted in a biblical worldview, helps people develop the tools needed to grow, lead, and live with purpose, not just cope. This conversation challenges the fear around therapy and reframes it as a process of transformation. We explore why healing often requires going back to the past in order to move forward, how identity and worth must be rooted in Christ rather than performance, and why continued growth and change are essential to a healthy life of faith. Rebecca also explains how the 12 steps of AA apply to every person, not just those in recovery, and how they point us toward freedom, joy, and dependence on Christ instead of circumstances…
You Can’t Do This Alone – Pastor Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedBuilt 4 More is back with Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin for a raw, honest conversation about real faith, real growth, and real change. This episode dives deep into the sin, repen, repeat cycle and why remorse alone never leads to freedom. Pastor Joby breaks down what biblical repentance actually means, how your mind gets renewed, and why wisdom, boundaries, and accountability matter if you want lasting transformation. The conversation expands into leadership at home, parenting talented kids without turning their gift into their identity, and why discipline and discomfort are often the tools God uses to shape strong men and families. They also talk about what happens in your darkest moments, how taking responsibility changes everything, and why isolation is one of the most dangerous lies men believe. If you’ve been feeling stuck, numb, frustrated with surface level faith, or unsure what God is doing in your life right now, this episode brings clarity, conviction, and direction. This is about becoming…
The Cost of Carrying Responsibility - Dr. Matt Carter, Pastor Joby Martin, and Denny Thompson
ListenedDr. Matt Carter, pastor, church planter, and now part of the teaching team at The Church of Eleven22, joins Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin for a powerful conversation on what it truly costs to carry responsibility. From discipling Colt McCoy through a Heisman run at Texas to planting one of the fastest growing churches in the country, Matt’s story is one of calling, surrender, and learning the hard way that success always comes with weight. He opens up about his time building The Austin Stone from scratch, the growth, the pressure, and the unseen spiritual toll that comes with leading something big for God. Then he shares the moment everything changed, a 99% heart blockage that forced him to slow down, reevaluate his purpose, and finally let go of being “the guy.” This episode dives deep into the difference between confidence and dependence, between a quarterback’s mindset and a pastor’s calling. Matt and Joby talk about how leadership isn’t about control, it’s about obedience. They break down how to…
The Side of Fatherhood We Don’t Talk About Enough - DR Meadows, Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedIn this episode, we sit down with DR Meadows for a wide ranging conversation that moves between fatherhood, leadership, and life as a Savannah Bananas. DR Meadows reflects on what it means to be present as a father while navigating demanding seasons of work, life, and responsibility, sharing honest insight into how priorities shift when family comes first. We also recap the Savannah Bananas season and the culture that has made the team one of the most compelling stories in sports. From the joy and pressure of the spotlight to what’s happening behind the scenes, DR Meadows talks what made this season special and what it taught him about teamwork, humility, and consistency. This conversation goes deeper than baseball. It’s about showing up, leading well, and understanding that success is ultimately measured by who you are at home and how you invest in the people who matter most. Whether you’re a parent, a sports fan, or someone trying to balance ambition with purpose, this episode offers perspective that…
What Men Get Wrong About Marriage, Identity, and Calling - Joby Martin & Denny Thompson
ListenedDenny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin sit down for a real conversation about football, marriage, leadership, and the identity that holds a man together. They start with the intensity of the college football season and the unexpected storylines from the playoff race, but the episode quickly shifts into the deeper places where most men actually live. Denny opens up about the season when his marriage was essentially over and how God used suffering, honesty, confession, and spiritual clarity to rebuild something stronger than before. Joby unpacks why most marriages break at the level of identity, why men so often focus on what they are not getting instead of who they are becoming, and why the triangle picture of husband wife and Jesus changes everything about how a home functions.They talk about what it means to lead with service, not entitlement, and how gratitude from a wife fuels a man in a way nothing else can. They discuss the spiritual reality that identity comes before activity and why men perform better…
Rece Davis: The Real Story Behind College GameDay’s Voice | Denny Thompson & Pastor Joby Martin
ListenedRece Davis sits down with Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin for one of the most personal and meaningful conversations of his career. The ESPN College GameDay host opens up about the family roots, character, and convictions that shaped him long before he ever stepped onto a broadcast set. He reflects on the early sacrifices, the unexpected doors that opened, and the steady foundation that kept him grounded as he grew into one of the most respected voices in sports. In this episode, Rece shares how his journey through ESPN has been more than a professional climb. It has been a continual commitment to staying present as a husband and father while navigating an industry that rarely slows down. He speaks honestly about the challenges of balancing national visibility with the responsibility of leading his home well, and how the principles instilled in him early on have carried him through seasons of pressure, travel, and intense public demand. Rece also pulls back the curtain on some of his favorite College…
Brad Nortman on NFL Journey, Getting Drafted & Fatherhood | Denny Thompson & Pastor Joby Martin
ListenedJoin Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin as they sit down with Brad Nortman. Brad is a former Carolina Panthers punter, Wisconsin Badgers standout, ESPN Madison host, and devoted father. In this episode, Brad opens up about his journey from college football to the NFL, the moment he got drafted, and how his time in Carolina shaped him both on and off the field. He shares hilarious and powerful stories from his Wisconsin days, his transition into broadcasting, and the unexpected path that led him to ESPN Madison. Brad also walks through the deeply personal side of his life such as adopting children, becoming a father, and building a home rooted in faith, discipline, and intentional leadership. This conversation is packed with wisdom, real-life lessons, and the type of honesty that defines what it means to be Built 4 More. #Built4More #BradNortman #NFL #WisconsinBadgers #CarolinaPanthers
Tyler Wells | How God Used Pain to Reshape My Life
ListenedBaltimore Orioles pitcher Tyler Wells sits down with Built 4 More to talk openly about loss, injury, identity, fatherhood, pressure, prayer, and the moment God completely redirected his life. In this conversation, Tyler shares the parts of his story most fans never hear, losing his mom at four years old, the defining game after his grandmother passed, the loneliness of the minor leagues, the anxiety of the big leagues, and the unexpected injury that God used to reshape his marriage, faith, and purpose. Tyler also breaks down the mindset behind pitching, the shift from reliever to starter, the mental battles athletes rarely discuss, and how becoming a father changed everything about the way he sees baseball. This episode is raw, honest, and centered on what matters most: faith, character, and calling.
Vitor Belfort & Matt Corral | The Conversation That Changed Everything
ListenedWhen a UFC Hall of Famer and an NFL quarterback sit down to talk about faith, pain, and redemption, you get more than a sports interview. You get a rescue story. In this powerful Built 4 More episode, Matt Corral opens up about isolation, identity, and the moment everything shifted, when Vitor Belfort stepped in as a brother, mentor, and disciple and led him to Christ. What started as a 7 am workout turned into a walk with Jesus, accountability, and a new purpose. Vitor, one of the greatest MMA fighters of all time, shares the part of his story most people don’t know: the fear, the temptation, the emptiness of fame, and the moment God moved him from “me” to “we.” Pastor Joby Martin brings biblical clarity, why pain and suffering form perseverance; why transformation is “be transformed by the renewal of your mind” why the fruit of the Spirit can’t be manufactured, only produced by abiding in Jesus. This is a conversation about identity, manhood, discipline, and hope, for anyone who’s ever felt like they blew…
The Untold Story of Matt Corral - Mental Health, Faith, and Redemption
ListenedMatt Corral finally opens up about everything. The pressure, the pain, and the purpose behind his journey from five-star high school phenom to NFL quarterback to walking away from the New England Patriots with no plan and no peace. In this unfiltered interview, the former Ole Miss star and Carolina Panthers draft pick sits down with Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin to talk through the parts of his story he’s never told publicly: the headlines that followed him since high school, the injuries that derailed his draft stock, the media stories that twisted the truth, and the silent mental-health battle that nearly ended everything. Matt shares how UFC legend Vitor Belfort stepped in at just the right moment, training him physically while discipling him spiritually and how that encounter introduced him to real faith, grace, and the freedom that changed his entire life. He walks through the moment he saw Bill Belichick on his way out of the Patriots facility, what it felt like to hit rock bottom, how therapy…
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