
To Catch a Thief: China’s Rise to Cyber Supremacy
Rubrik | Nicole Perlroth | Pod People
American companies, whole towns, have been eviscerated by Chinese cyberattacks. But their stories remain untold, even as the stakes get higher and the targets more reckless. To Catch a Thief is a first-of-its-kind, documentary look at China’s rise to cyber supremacy. This podcast charts the evolution of China’s state-sponsored hackers, from their beginnings as “the most polite, mediocre hackers in cyberspace” to the “apex predator” that now haunts America’s critical infrastructure. Host Nicole Perlroth, bestselling author and former lead cybersecurity and digital espionage reporter for The New York Times, interviews those who were victimized, and instrumental in tracking, Chinese cyberattacks as the threat morphed from trade secret theft, to blanket surveillance, to pre-positioning in America’s critical infrastructure. For what purpose? To Catch a Thief interrogates the motives behind it all. This audio documentary is produced by Rubrik, the leading data security company that delivers cyber resilience for businesses around the world.
Categories: Technology
Listen to the last episode:
Colonial Pipeline was a warning shot. Now, Chinese hackers are inside the digital guts of hundreds of Colonial equivalents across the U.S.—power, water, transportation, and more. The question isn’t if they’re in. It’s why. And what happens next. Is this digital coercion? A warning to stay out of Taiwan? Is an invasion imminent—and are we ready for the cyber fallout that could come with it? In the final episode of this series, host and former New York Times cybersecurity reporter, Nicole Perlroth, investigates the nightmare scenarios U.S. officials are gaming out behind closed doors. The battlefield is already shifting—tilting toward Beijing. And while China prepares, America’s attack surface only grows. This isn’t just a problem for Washington. The new front line runs through all of us.
Previous episodes
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11 - Ep 9: The New Frontline Thu, 29 May 2025
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10 - Ep 8: Living Off The Land Mon, 05 May 2025
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9 - Ep 7: Everything Everywhere All At Once Mon, 28 Apr 2025
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8 - Ep 6: The Gunslingers Mon, 14 Apr 2025
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7 - Ep 5: A Cyber Detente Mon, 07 Apr 2025
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6 - Ep 4: Naming and Shaming Mon, 31 Mar 2025
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5 - BONUS: Live Panel with Top China & Cyber Experts at The New York Stock Exchange Thu, 27 Mar 2025
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4 - Ep 3: The Most Dangerous Time in American History Mon, 24 Mar 2025
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3 - Ep 2: Then They Came for Us Mon, 17 Mar 2025
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2 - Ep 1: The Five Poisons Mon, 17 Mar 2025
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1 - Coming Soon - To Catch a Thief: China’s Rise to Cyber Supremacy Tue, 04 Mar 2025