Monetizing SaaS
Schematic
Categories: Technology
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Ken Babcock is the CEO and co-founder of Tango, a digital adoption platform transforming how teams document and share processes. Before starting Tango, Ken spent four years at Uber, where he learned the power of operational excellence and decentralized playbooks. His entrepreneurial journey began at Harvard Business School, where he met his co-founders and uncovered the pain points that inspired Tango. In this episode: - Lessons from scaling operations at Uber and applying them to SaaS - How the pandemic shaped Tango’s mission and product vision - Building a product that turns "game-changer" into a common customer review - Why simplifying your pricing model leads to better conversion - The surprising impact of raising prices on retention and customer health 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗣𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗧𝗮𝗸𝗲𝗮𝘄𝗮𝘆𝘀: 1. Don’t Be Too Generous With Free Plans – “Generosity in free plans can hinder conversions. Identify the key triggers to move users to paid plans.” 2. Raising prices positively impacts overall health metrics – “Raising prices, when paired with added value, has improved the overall health metrics of the business every time we've done it." 3. Simplify Your Pricing – “Overcomplicated pricing schemes add friction to sales. Simplicity helps customers clearly connect cost to value.” Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 05:14 Scaling Playbooks and Operational Excellence at Uber 13:47 Founding Tango and the First Insights 20:33 Evolving Product Vision Through Customer Feedback 30:12 Pricing Strategies: From Free Plans to Enterprise Sales 40:58 Raising Prices and Retention Metrics 48:06 The Future of Knowledge Work #pricingstrategy #b2bsaas #entrepreneurship
Previous episodes
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50 - Episode 52 - Ken Babcock (Tango.ai) Mon, 13 Jan 2025
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49 - Episode 51 - Gaurav Vohra (Superhuman) Wed, 08 Jan 2025
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48 - Episode 50 - James Wood (M3ter) - Part 2 Wed, 08 Jan 2025
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47 - Episode 49 - James Wood (M3ter) - Part 1 Wed, 08 Jan 2025
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46 - Episode 48 - Alexa Gjonca (Dashlane) Tue, 24 Dec 2024
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45 - Episode 47 - Jake Stein (Common Paper) Mon, 16 Dec 2024
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44 - Episode 46 - Ismail Pelaseyed (Superagent (YC W24)) Tue, 10 Dec 2024
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43 - Episode 45 - Claire Vo (LaunchDarkly) Tue, 26 Nov 2024
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42 - Episode 44 - Mandy Sidana (Plotly) Tue, 19 Nov 2024
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41 - Episode 43 - James D. Wilton (Monevate) Wed, 13 Nov 2024
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40 - Episode 42 - Jeff Escalante (Clerk.com) Mon, 11 Nov 2024
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39 - Episode 41 - Kent Keirsey (Invoke.com) Tue, 05 Nov 2024
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38 - Episode 40 - Jules Boiteux (Roast My Pricing Page) Tue, 29 Oct 2024
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37 - Episode 39 - Miguel Oller (Makeswift) Tue, 22 Oct 2024
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36 - Episode 38 - Spyri Karasavva (DealOps) Tue, 15 Oct 2024
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35 - Episode 37 - Gary Bailey (The Talent Capitalist) Tue, 08 Oct 2024
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34 - Episode 36 - Scott Mitchell (Salesloft) Tue, 01 Oct 2024
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32 - Episode 35 - David Caughman (Docker) Tue, 24 Sep 2024
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31 - Episode 34 - Joe Ryan (LaunchDarkly) Tue, 17 Sep 2024
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30 - Episode 5 - Rob Eanes (WorkLeap) Wed, 28 Feb 2024
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29 - Episode 21 - Customer System of Record with Jon O'Bryan (Atlas) Wed, 19 Jun 2024
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28 - Episode 9 - The Standard for Websites with Lindsay Trinkle (Makeswift) Wed, 27 Mar 2024
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27 - Episode 6 - Building for Flexibility with Steve Bussey (Supered.io) Wed, 06 Mar 2024
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26 - Episode 22 - Jen Ayers (DNSFilter) Tue, 25 Jun 2024
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25 - Episode 24 - Tommy Noonan (Tropic) Tue, 09 Jul 2024
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24 - Episode 8 - Keys to SaaS Pricing with Pat Doran (PriceIntelligently) Tue, 19 Mar 2024
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23 - Episode 3 - Building Monetization with Rob Truesdell (Pangea Cloud) Tue, 13 Feb 2024
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22 - Episode 19 - Tim Olshansky (Zenput) Tue, 04 Jun 2024
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21 - Episode 17 - Commercial Debt with Thomas Sellers (UIPath) Tue, 21 May 2024
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20 - Episode 1 - Evolution of Enterprise SaaS with Fazal Gupta (Logik.io) Tue, 30 Jan 2024
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16 - Episode 33 - Lesons from Calendly, Mailchimp, and Stitch Fix with Aubrey Rhodes (Workful) Mon, 09 Sep 2024
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15 - Episode 32 - Functional Truths with Ulrik Lehrskov-Schmidt (WillingnessToPay) Tue, 03 Sep 2024
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14 - Episode 31 - Aligning Pricing and Progress with Jon Sadow (Scoop) Mon, 26 Aug 2024
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13 - Episode 30 - Price for Retention with Daniel Hellerman (Saleo) Mon, 19 Aug 2024
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12 - Episode 29 - Ask the Hard Questions with Harker Roslin (Hubspot) Mon, 12 Aug 2024
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11 - Episode 28 - Lessons on Monetization with Ryan Johnson (CallRail) Mon, 05 Aug 2024
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10 - Episode 27 - Be long-term greedy with Farhan Manjiyani (Grafana Labs) Mon, 29 Jul 2024
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9 - Episode 20 - The Mechanics of the Customer Journey with Kay Dastgheib (Tegus) Tue, 11 Jun 2024
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8 - Episode 16 - Simplifying Entitlements in SaaS with Brian Rinaldi (LocalStack) Tue, 14 May 2024
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7 - Episode 15 - Make Monetization a First Class Citizen with Justin Gagnon (Calendly) Tue, 07 May 2024
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6 - Episode 12 - Cost Management, Feature Flags, and Entitlements with Bill Tarr (AWS SaaS Factory) Tue, 16 Apr 2024
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5 - Episode 11 - The Pricing Page is the Most Important Page in B2B SaaS with Matt Bradley (Cloudsnap) Tue, 09 Apr 2024
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4 - Episode 10 - The Most Common Pricing Mistake in SaaS with Justin Talerico (Automox) Tue, 02 Apr 2024
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3 - Episode 2 - Navigating the Complex World of B2B SaaS Pricing with Bill Wilson (Pace Pricing) Tue, 06 Feb 2024
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2 - Episode 26 - Pricing on Purpose with Marcos Rivera (Pricing I/O) Tue, 23 Jul 2024
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1 - Episode 25 - Roadmap-Driven Pricing and Packaging with John Kotowski (PricingSaaS) Tue, 16 Jul 2024